**2017–18 Offseason Thread**

[MikeyJoe]

There’s something wrong with that 247 composite score.

 

[Wanderer]

I will be rooting for Ahmad, but in no world is he an incredible athlete

Do we have to go through this again?

Well he has played 3 years of D1 basketball. As a high school WR, he was a top 40/4 star recruit according to 247. Also ran the anchor leg of Ohio’s fourth place 4X100 team.

Great take.

https://247sports.com/player/ahmad-wagner-38643

You might as well have given his Intramural stats if you are going to cite High School.

Also, in what fucking world was he a Top 40 High School football recruit????

Did the link not work? If you were to click on that link, you would see that he was the number 33 WR according to 247. That’s inside the top 40.

 

[douglasbader]

Do we have to go through this again?

You might as well have given his Intramural stats if you are going to cite High School.

Also, in what fucking world was he a Top 40 High School football recruit????

Did the link not work? If you were to click on that link, you would see that he was the number 33 WR according to 247. That’s inside the top 40.

Yeah, and my dick is 10 inches. That wasn't his rating on signing day and that was done after the fact.

 

[Wanderer]

Link?

 

[Wanderer]

All I have to go on is his 247 recruiting page. Sounds like you have a better source. Still seems like a pretty good athlete. But really, at this point, I couldn’t give a fuck.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

You might as well have given his Intramural stats if you are going to cite High School.

Also, in what fucking world was he a Top 40 High School football recruit????

Did the link not work? If you were to click on that link, you would see that he was the number 33 WR according to 247. That’s inside the top 40.

Yeah, and my dick is 10 inches.

@AZmess

 

[CurdMan]

Geez. No one is saying Wagner isn’t a pretty good (or even really good) athlete. But incredible? I don’t think he’d even be the best athlete in Iowa’s WR room.

 

[douglasbader]

@MikeyJoe , can you check the recent posts?

I think Scott Dochterman is posting under multiple handles.

 

[Wanderer]

@MikeyJoe , can you check the recent posts?

I think Scott Dochterman is posting under multiple handles.

LOFL. That’s a good closer.

 

[douglasbader]

They have live footage of Dochterman as he read the Wagner tweet today....

 

[Herky823]

Link?

https://web.archive.org/web/20150302210744/https://247sports.com/player/ahmad-wagner-38643

@douglasbader is right here. That's an archive of his page from March of 2015. There are three from that time, and in all of them he has "NA" for all of his rankings.

Just to make sure that isn't something that shows on all recruits pages I looked up Derwin James from fall of 2014.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140414091317/http://247sports.com/Player/Derwin-James-19186

There it shows he was the #1 S and #15 national recruit at the time, the latter of which is different from his final ranking so it wasn't just grabbed from his current page.

 

[Revolver]

Link?

https://web.archive.org/web/20150302210744/https://247sports.com/player/ahmad-wagner-38643

@douglasbader is right here. That's an archive of his page from March of 2015. There are three from that time, and in all of them he has "NA" for all of his rankings.

Just to make sure that isn't something that shows on all recruits pages I looked up Derwin James from fall of 2014.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140414091317/http://247sports.com/Player/Derwin-James-19186

There it shows he was the #1 S and #15 national recruit at the time, the latter of which is different from his final ranking so it wasn't just grabbed from his current page.

The fact that they are changing the rankings after collegiate careers have played out kinda defeats the purpose.

 

[Wanderer]

Link?

https://web.archive.org/web/20150302210744/https://247sports.com/player/ahmad-wagner-38643

@douglasbader is right here. That's an archive of his page from March of 2015. There are three from that time, and in all of them he has "NA" for all of his rankings.

Just to make sure that isn't something that shows on all recruits pages I looked up Derwin James from fall of 2014.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140414091317/http://247sports.com/Player/Derwin-James-19186

There it shows he was the #1 S and #15 national recruit at the time, the latter of which is different from his final ranking so it wasn't just grabbed from his current page.

The fact that they are changing the rankings after collegiate careers have played out kinda defeats the purpose.

Agreed. Plus why would they upgrade Wagner in football when he didn’t even go on to play football? Oh well.

 

[Carter Page]

Geez. No one is saying Wagner isn’t a pretty good (or even really good) athlete. But incredible? I don’t think he’d even be the best athlete in Iowa’s WR room.

While it is a semantics thing, the distinction seems fairly straightforward. Saquon Barkley is an incredible athlete. The vast majority of others in all of college sports are not.

 

[Mo T]

While it is a semantics thing, the distinction seems fairly straightforward. Saquon Barkley is an incredible athlete. The vast majority of others in all of college sports are not.

So we are saving the term "incredible athlete" for Saquon Barkley and Bo Jackson. Any kid who can start at a D1 school in two different skill sports is an incredible athlete.

 

[douglasbader]

While it is a semantics thing, the distinction seems fairly straightforward. Saquon Barkley is an incredible athlete. The vast majority of others in all of college sports are not.

So we are saving the term "incredible athlete" for Saquon Barkley and Bo Jackson. Any kid who can start at a D1 school in two different skill sports is an incredible athlete.

No.

 

[MikeyJoe]

While it is a semantics thing, the distinction seems fairly straightforward. Saquon Barkley is an incredible athlete. The vast majority of others in all of college sports are not.

So we are saving the term "incredible athlete" for Saquon Barkley and Bo Jackson. Any kid who can start at a D1 school in two different skill sports is an incredible athlete.

It should be obvious that when we say "incredible athlete" we're talking about people already within the context of D1 sports.

 

[Billy Butters]

While it is a semantics thing, the distinction seems fairly straightforward. Saquon Barkley is an incredible athlete. The vast majority of others in all of college sports are not.

So we are saving the term "incredible athlete" for Saquon Barkley and Bo Jackson. Any kid who can start at a D1 school in two different skill sports is an incredible athlete.

Lol, fuck you Fran.

 

[Wanderer]

I don't really consider this "stirring the pot", but it is a good read from Leistikow. I think Brian is going to turn out to be a great coach that, by the time it undoubtedly happens, Hawk fans are going to be very excited about being the new HC.

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/columnists/chad-leistikow/2018/05/03/brian-ferentz-offensive-coordinator-hawkeyes-radio-show-nate-stanley-ohio-state/574669002/

 

[StinkyMcFadden]

26 TDs
6 Interceptions

Not one of the top QBs in the league.

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

26 TDs
6 Interceptions

Not one of the top QBs in the league.

Sal thinks you are artificially getting extra likes with that gif.

 

[Monster]

26 TDs
6 Interceptions

Not one of the top QBs in the league.

Pretty similar numbers to James Vandenberg his junior year.

 

[CamelTones]

26 TDs
6 Interceptions

Not one of the top QBs in the league.

I listened to the interview and a person texted in asking Brian why Iowa only audibles to run plays. He said some things then said 'there was also a play during the Minnesota game. Backed up on our own 9 yard line, Nate made a great check to a pass. Coverage was exactly what we're looking for. He threw a beautiful ball that hit Smith-Marsette right in the face. It should have been a 90 yard touchdown, instead it looked like a bad interception.'

 

[Bob]

He's not wrong but man he and Kirk have really gone out of their way to shit on the WRs not named kyle groeneweg this offseason

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

He's not wrong but man he and Kirk have really gone out of their way to shit on the WRs not named kyle groeneweg this offseason

He also said that he thinks the receivers were better than he expected them to be, and thinks they can be good this year.

 

[douglasbader]

He's not wrong but man he and Kirk have really gone out of their way to shit on the WRs not named kyle groeneweg this offseason

Some coaches don't get along with certain positions. WR is a diva position, and that seems to rub the Ferentz family the wrong way.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Connor McCaffery, incredible athlete

 

[Talkin' Goat]

Another reminder that we’re fucking old.

 

[Bonner]

Little Bonner was at the camp today. He had a good time, anyone else?

 

[Bonner]

Kirk did a Q&A with the kiddos at the end. Someone spoke and said he was a Cyclone fan. He was booed and heckled by all the other kids around him. I enjoyed it.

 

[Jimmie Dimmick]

Little Bonner was at the camp today. He had a good time, anyone else?

Johnston? My nephew was the biggest kid there.

 

[cjhawks]

Little Bonner was at the camp today. He had a good time, anyone else?

Johnston? My nephew was the biggest kid there.

If fathers were in the stands that’s doubtful

 

[Jimmie Dimmick]

Little Bonner was at the camp today. He had a good time, anyone else?

Johnston? My nephew was the biggest kid there.

If fathers were in the stands that’s doubtful

I have a pic. He looks like a coach.

 

[Monster]

Little Bonner was at the camp today. He had a good time, anyone else?

Johnston? My nephew was the biggest kid there.

Congrats on your nephew.

 

[Hawk_Kegmasters]

Little Bonner was at the camp today. He had a good time, anyone else?

Middle Keggy was in session 2. Said Ivory Kelly Martin was his favorite player there.

 

[bigazzturkeylegs]

 

[turtley78]

Good article on Daniels for anyone with a subscription to The Athletic.

https://theathletic.com/345332/2018/05/07/a-football-family-and-brotherly-bond-helped-prepare-new-bears-lineman-james-daniels-for-the-next-step/

 

[jandj]

Little Bonner was at the camp today. He had a good time, anyone else?

Johnston? My nephew was the biggest kid there.

@Monster’s kid is your nephew?

 

[Herky823]

Good article on Daniels for anyone with a subscription to The Athletic.

https://theathletic.com/345332/2018/05/07/a-football-family-and-brotherly-bond-helped-prepare-new-bears-lineman-james-daniels-for-the-next-step/

Is it a good article for people who post on a message board with anyone that subscribes to The Atlantic? I guess we’ll find out.

 

[Lime]

Good article on Daniels for anyone with a subscription to The Athletic.

https://theathletic.com/345332/2018/05/07/a-football-family-and-brotherly-bond-helped-prepare-new-bears-lineman-james-daniels-for-the-next-step/

Is it a good article for people who post on a message board with anyone that subscribes to The Atlantic? I guess we’ll find out.

I'm a long-time The Atlantic subscriber, but I do not subscribe to The Athletic, so I cannot help.

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

What in the sam fuckin' hell

 

[ivan_drago]

Chris Williams grew up a huge Hawkeye fan, so this is actually in his wheelhouse.

 

[FLhawk]

Chris Williams grew up a huge Hawkeye fan,

glad the hawks stopped allowing that shit

 

[BuffettHawk]

 

[Hawk_Kegmasters]

Fleck is officially delusional, folks.


“Now, when you haven’t done that in 51 years, that’s very difficult to do in the new era of college football,” Fleck said. “Fifty years ago, we were the Alabama of football. We were that. Fifty years later, we are not that currently. That is what we are going to get back to.“

That decade of fifty years ago, by the way, their best record was 8-2. They shared two big ten titles that decade. 3 losing seasons, 2 seasons with 5-4 records and one with 6-4 record. So yes, they will get back to that level but Claeys and Kill already had them there. Alabama of football.

“You’re going to thank me in 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023 if we do this and not look at just, ‘Hey, let’s get some early success for long-term pain,’ ” Fleck said. “It’s going to be opposite: short-term pain for long-term success. You’ll thank me when you see this kid in a few years.”

I somehow hate him even more after this article.

https://www.twincities.com/2018/05/11/p-j-fleck-to-gophers-fans-fifty-years-ago-we-were-the-alabama-of-football-that-is-what-we-are-going-to-get-back-to/?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#link_time=1526071490

 

[Bob]

Romeo McKnight just tweeted so he's probably on the way out. Not surprising given the depth at end

 

[eclone]

Romeo McKnight just tweeted so he's probably on the way out. Not surprising given the depth at end

 

[Mo T]

I decided to try the mobile ticket season plan. I'm sure the seats will suck, but for $250/season ticket, it was cheaper than buying single game tickets to just Iowa State, Wisconsin and Nebrantska.

 

[Stu Beagle]

I decided to try the mobile ticket season plan. I'm sure the seats will suck, but for $250/season ticket, it was cheaper than buying single game tickets to just Iowa State, Wisconsin and Nebrantska.

yeah but everyone will hate you when it takes them 10 minutes to scan your phone

 

[Mo T]

I decided to try the mobile ticket season plan. I'm sure the seats will suck, but for $250/season ticket, it was cheaper than buying single game tickets to just Iowa State, Wisconsin and Nebrantska.

yeah but everyone will hate you when it takes them 10 minutes to scan your phone

I've never had any problems with getting tickets scanned from my phone. Are these top secret, unscannable codes?