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Today is the day that Iowa State Basketball officially became Iowa Football with a lot of in-state recruits going forward. They have better facilities, much better fan support, better overall success in recent times and a history of putting guys in the NBA.

A kid that Iowa recruited harder than anyone, offered first and his entire family are Iowa fans told Iowa that he would rather play for their in-state rival because he felt he had a better opportunity to succeed and get to the NBA. Same thing that many kids say to Iowa State in Football and why they choose Iowa.

Not really hard to understand.
 

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Using Alford and the fucking criminals as an excuse is dumb. ISU had Wayne Morgan and Greg McDermott basically do the same thing to that program after Eustachy was caught getting hammered with college kids.

Frans been here long enough that he’s had time to give people a legit reason to be excited and to come back. And outside of the January run Uthoffs senior year, he hasn’t been able to consistently do it. Every year everyone on this message board says ‘just wait until the Fran collapse’ That has nothing to do with Alford or Lick.
 

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ISU has been the better program since the days of Tim Floyd.

This just brings the point home.
 

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Using Alford and the fucking criminals as an excuse is dumb. ISU had Wayne Morgan and Greg McDermott basically do the same thing to that program after Eustachy was caught getting hammered with college kids.

Frans been here long enough that he’s had time to give people a legit reason to be excited and to come back. And outside of the January run Uthoffs senior year, he hasn’t been able to consistently do it. Every year everyone on this message board says ‘just wait until the Fran collapse’ That has nothing to do with Alford or Lick.
Right, Fran has been solid but not great while Hoiberg was able to get Iowa State over the hump. He did it in a fix it quick way using the worst of the worst transfers and criminals he could find while Fran tried to do it the Boy Scout way.

Fran started from a much much deeper hole, especially considering what he could actually get away with bringing in and tolerating to fix it. He tried with Hubbard and that was immediately shut down given the shit they had been through with Alford and Pierce.

Alford and Lick absolutely matter in that.
 

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I'm just going to enjoy this season and next year. It might be ugly after that.
Shockingly I actually am with you, sick of talking about how shitty recruiting is. Fran maybe pulls in someone late but who cares at this point.

Iowa should be pretty good and fun to watch the next couple years. Enjoy it while you can.
 

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Chris spends a few years ripping McCaffery and then wonders why people have a bad opinion of McCaffery
 

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I'm just going to enjoy this season and next year. It might be ugly after that.
Shockingly I actually am with you, sick of talking about how shitty recruiting is. Fran maybe pulls in someone late but who cares at this point.

Iowa should be pretty good and fun to watch the next couple years. Enjoy it while you can.
This is where I'm at too. A lot of things can happen in the next couple years.
 

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I'm just going to enjoy this season and next year. It might be ugly after that.
Shockingly I actually am with you, sick of talking about how shitty recruiting is. Fran maybe pulls in someone late but who cares at this point.

Iowa should be pretty good and fun to watch the next couple years. Enjoy it while you can.
This is where I'm at too. A lot of things can happen in the next couple years.
fran isn’t far away from retirement. We are going to have a new coach in four years regardless.
 

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Don’t worry guys. We have four impact players in this class. Just ignore that none of them have a single P5 offer outside of Iowa.
 

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NBA aspirations aside, maybe Foster looked at the physical play of the B10 and thought the Big12 better suited his game.
 

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There is a difference between Iowa message boards fans and even twitter dorks bitching and Hassel types doing what he is doing.

None of it has any positive impact, even in the long run and it looks fucking pathetic overall. Take that with the fact he is doing it mostly because of the Dolph thing and it is even worse.
 

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Using Alford and the fucking criminals as an excuse is dumb. ISU had Wayne Morgan and Greg McDermott basically do the same thing to that program after Eustachy was caught getting hammered with college kids.

Frans been here long enough that he’s had time to give people a legit reason to be excited and to come back. And outside of the January run Uthoffs senior year, he hasn’t been able to consistently do it. Every year everyone on this message board says ‘just wait until the Fran collapse’ That has nothing to do with Alford or Lick.
Right, Fran has been solid but not great while Hoiberg was able to get Iowa State over the hump. He did it in a fix it quick way using the worst of the worst transfers and criminals he could find while Fran tried to do it the Boy Scout way.

Fran started from a much much deeper hole, especially considering what he could actually get away with bringing in and tolerating to fix it. He tried with Hubbard and that was immediately shut down given the shit they had been through with Alford and Pierce.

Alford and Lick absolutely matter in that.
Right but they don’t have McCabe in at the end of games. They’re not the ones continually putting the ball in Mike Gesells hands at the end of games. They’re not the ones that think they have to have the Baer-Pemsl-Wagner-Uhl-Ellingson lineup on the floor for 5 minutes in the second half when the previous 20 games has shown any lead you had is gone or any deficit you were facing is now double.

Control what you can control and the rest will take care of itself.
 

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I fucking hate him so much. What good does this petty shit do for anyone? Also, why the fuck would Fran be fired at this point? So dumb.

 

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All of this shit sucks this week. It isn't just the Fran stuff today, it is everything with Iowa fans recently.

Sure, I wish Fran was better and Ferentz could win a couple more of these big games, but Iowa Basketball made the NCAA Tournament last year and nearly got to the Sweet 16.

Iowa Football won 9 games last year and has a great shot at 9 or 10 this year and is ranked.

If you looked from the outside in today you would think Iowa was currently one of the worst teams in the Big Ten and is headed for disaster across the board. It's ridiculous.
 

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In a week we might all be basking in the glow of a couple bball wins and keeping the pig in Iowa City.
 

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All of this shit sucks this week. It isn't just the Fran stuff today, it is everything with Iowa fans recently.

Sure, I wish Fran was better and Ferentz could win a couple more of these big games, but Iowa Basketball made the NCAA Tournament last year and nearly got to the Sweet 16.

Iowa Football won 9 games last year and has a great shot at 9 or 10 this year and is ranked.

If you looked from the outside in today you would think Iowa was currently one of the worst teams in the Big Ten and is headed for disaster across the board. It's ridiculous.
It has more to do with teams around Iowa (that Iowa fans compare themselves to) than Iowa itself. Minnesota looks good in football and if they win Saturday are likely going to the Rose Bowl. Illinois is going to a bowl. Iowa State is now decent in football and just landed the top in state Iowa fan basketball recruit. Wisconsin football is strong again and Iowa seems to be just fine where they’re at.

The only thing left for people to mock is Nebrantska.

The football team absolutely has to win on Saturday.
 

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All of this shit sucks this week. It isn't just the Fran stuff today, it is everything with Iowa fans recently.

Sure, I wish Fran was better and Ferentz could win a couple more of these big games, but Iowa Basketball made the NCAA Tournament last year and nearly got to the Sweet 16.

Iowa Football won 9 games last year and has a great shot at 9 or 10 this year and is ranked.

If you looked from the outside in today you would think Iowa was currently one of the worst teams in the Big Ten and is headed for disaster across the board. It's ridiculous.
It has more to do with teams around Iowa (that Iowa fans compare themselves to) than Iowa itself. Minnesota looks good in football and if they win Saturday are likely going to the Rose Bowl. Illinois is going to a bowl. Iowa State is now decent in football and just landed the top in state Iowa fan basketball recruit. Wisconsin football is strong again and Iowa seems to be just fine where they’re at.

The only thing left for people to mock is Nebrantska.

The football team absolutely has to win on Saturday.
HALO on Saturday night if Iowa loses:

 

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I'm hearing this might not be over… he thought Iowa State was located in Iowa City.
 

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Well iowa fans are retarded.
 

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maybe Fran will catch lightning in a bottle with the Murray lads.
 

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maybe Fran will catch lightning in a bottle with the Murray lads.
he doesn’t really need to unless he wants to squeeze some stretch 4 shooting out of them. SF is occupied for their first three years and PF for their first two. I would like to think that we can get a decent prospect in here during that time as well.
 
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All of this shit sucks this week. It isn't just the Fran stuff today, it is everything with Iowa fans recently.

Sure, I wish Fran was better and Ferentz could win a couple more of these big games, but Iowa Basketball made the NCAA Tournament last year and nearly got to the Sweet 16.

Iowa Football won 9 games last year and has a great shot at 9 or 10 this year and is ranked.

If you looked from the outside in today you would think Iowa was currently one of the worst teams in the Big Ten and is headed for disaster across the board. It's ridiculous.
Which means absolutely nothing. Except you get to play a meaningless exhibition in late December or January. But that’s more of a college football problem than an Iowa problem.

Also, I would be more bummed about losing out on Foster if he was a highly touted in-state PG. College basketball is a guards game and that is where Fran has continued to fall short. Hopefully, Joe T makes us forget all that.
 

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Ol Don better switch his allegiance to a blue blood football program.
 
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Ol Don better switch his allegiance to a blue blood football program.
Or college football could adapt a real playoff system. Which Iowa could maybe qualify for 1 out of 5 years if there was a 16 team tournament. But that be completely insane. Wait, no it wouldn’t.
 

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Ol Don better switch his allegiance to a blue blood football program.
Or college football could adapt a real playoff system. Which Iowa could maybe qualify for 1 out of 5 years if there was a 16 team tournament. But that be completely insane. Wait, no it wouldn’t.
24 teams, 1st two or three rounds higher seed gets home field.
 

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All of this shit sucks this week. It isn't just the Fran stuff today, it is everything with Iowa fans recently.

Sure, I wish Fran was better and Ferentz could win a couple more of these big games, but Iowa Basketball made the NCAA Tournament last year and nearly got to the Sweet 16.

Iowa Football won 9 games last year and has a great shot at 9 or 10 this year and is ranked.

If you looked from the outside in today you would think Iowa was currently one of the worst teams in the Big Ten and is headed for disaster across the board. It's ridiculous.
Which means absolutely nothing. Except you get to play a meaningless exhibition in late December or January. But that’s more of a college football problem than an Iowa problem.

Also, I would be more bummed about losing out on Foster if he was a highly touted in-state PG. College basketball is a guards game and that is where Fran has continued to fall short. Hopefully, Joe T makes us forget all that.
So, DJ Carton?

Who through two games at OSU is averaging 11 pts/4 reb/3assists while shooting 73% from the floor (67% from 3).
 

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All of this shit sucks this week. It isn't just the Fran stuff today, it is everything with Iowa fans recently.

Sure, I wish Fran was better and Ferentz could win a couple more of these big games, but Iowa Basketball made the NCAA Tournament last year and nearly got to the Sweet 16.

Iowa Football won 9 games last year and has a great shot at 9 or 10 this year and is ranked.

If you looked from the outside in today you would think Iowa was currently one of the worst teams in the Big Ten and is headed for disaster across the board. It's ridiculous.
Which means absolutely nothing. Except you get to play a meaningless exhibition in late December or January. But that’s more of a college football problem than an Iowa problem.

Also, I would be more bummed about losing out on Foster if he was a highly touted in-state PG. College basketball is a guards game and that is where Fran has continued to fall short. Hopefully, Joe T makes us forget all that.
So, DJ Carton?

Who through two games at OSU is averaging 11 pts/4 reb/3assists while shooting 73% from the floor (67% from 3).
Carton wasn’t truly in state though. Didn’t have Iowa roots.
 
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