**2025 Iowa Offseason & Coaching Search Thread***

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newsbreaker said:
More on how this came together, (including a depantsing of Eickholt):

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That's hardly a depantsing of Eickholt, it's just more sour grapes that he put it out before they wanted it out.

He keeps pointing out that McCollum wasn't negotiating the deal or finalizing it, no shit sherlock, but his agent absolutely was. The AD also is naive as fuck that he was somehow being let in on the whole process and details. McCollum met with him out of respect and let him make an offer at his house, as he should have, but it was never going to be seriously considered because the deal was virtually done in the background between McCollum's agent and Beth.
 
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BBK said:
Anyone else want to scissor?
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B19Rob said:
I don't remember who mentioned it previously, but I hope Fran hires Ben McCollum as assistant coach with the possibility of HC in waiting someday. NWMSU has been absolutely dominant the past 6 years (220-13 record). They lose their best player in team history to pro ball, and are likely to regress next year.

There's no way he makes more than Speraw's $255k salary at NWMSU; and low/mid major D1 head coaching jobs are usually in that ballpark, with much more volatility than Fran's assistant coaching positions.
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I wrote this after Speraw retired in 2022
 
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By the way, what the Drake AD and other Iowa beat reporters are trying to do is some sort of WATT performative bullshit, when young David turned out to be spot fucking on and got it right. They're just pissed he didn't follow well established beat reporter norms of never saying shit until the national reporters break the news.
 
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Eickholt jumped the gun, and wanted to report what he read on a $6 discord feed, that the deal was close to final. They were working on terms, but he over-sold it. He ended up being right eventually, while the others didn't bother to even try and report anything, which I guess makes him the best clown in the circus.
 
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High D1 doesn't mean top 50. It just means a Big 10 level player.

MVC or Horizon talent ain't going to do it.
 
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douglasbader said:
That's hardly a depantsing of Eickholt, it's just more sour grapes that he put it out before they wanted it out.

He keeps pointing out that McCollum wasn't negotiating the deal or finalizing it, no shit sherlock, but his agent absolutely was. The AD also is naive as fuck that he was somehow being let in on the whole process and details. McCollum met with him out of respect and let him make an offer at his house, as he should have, but it was never going to be seriously considered because the deal was virtually done in the background between McCollum's agent and Beth.
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Agree with most of this but don’t think the AD was being naive. I think he was being respectful to McCollum as no use crying over spilled milk. Bitching about it only hurts him moving forward.
 
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newsbreaker said:
Eickholt jumped the gun, and wanted to report what he read on a $6 discord feed, that the deal was close to final. They were working on terms, but he over-sold it. He ended up being right eventually, while the others didn't bother to even try and report anything, which I guess makes him the best clown in the circus.
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Jumped what gun? And he said "finalizing" a deal, not a deal was done or final. How was that over-sold?

AND HE WAS FUCKING RIGHT!!
 
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Hawk&Balls said:
Fran may have landed guys that had other offers, but not too many 4-5 star, upper level recruits.
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Again, that's dumb and he landed a lot of 4* players. Fran fucked up not doing well in the NCAA Tourney, but he wasn't some incompetent moron that couldn't recruit. No need to paint some false narrative.
 
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no shit?
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Yeah no shit.

But look at some guys who were successful at mid-majors, they get a high major job, but their talent identification eyes are still calibrated to mid majors. They either make the jump, like Brownell, or never figure it out, like the Criminal.
 
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Yeah no shit.

But look at some guys who were successful at mid-majors, they get a high major job, but their talent identification eyes are still calibrated to mid majors. They either make the jump, like Brownell, or never figure it out, like the Criminal.
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The Criminal hadn’t figured shit out at Butler either. It was all Stevens.
 
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Jumped what gun? And he said "finalizing" a deal, not a deal was done or final. How was that over-sold?

AND HE WAS FUCKING RIGHT!!
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They weren't finalizing much if the only decision-maker was still entertaining offers and talking to other schools. He wanted credit for being the one to break coach-has-decided-to-go-to-school (which he was apparently just repeating from a discord feed) when that decision hadn't yet been made.

But either way, it isn't like he's an actual reporter who developed a source, worked that source to get inside information on the current status of the process, and then provided that service to the public. He repeated what was available to anyone with a debit card and enough money to buy a Big Mac. The entirety of the Iowa reporting ranks includes no actual reportage, which is the only reason this discussion has any value at all.
 
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I want an explanation as to htf AZ wasn’t perma banned for his undying support of the criminal.
Some things in life there must be consequences for & that’s one. The world has been out of balance since
 
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newsbreaker said:
They weren't finalizing much if the only decision-maker was still entertaining offers and talking to other schools. He wanted credit for being the one to break coach-has-decided-to-go-to-school (which he was apparently just repeating from a discord feed) when that decision hadn't yet been made.

But either way, it isn't like he's an actual reporter who developed a source, worked that source to get inside information on the current status of the process, and then provided that service to the public. He repeated what was available to anyone with a debit card and enough money to buy a Big Mac. The entirety of the Iowa reporting ranks includes no actual reportage.
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The first part, you are taking the AD at his word on the whole situation as if he knows everything. He doesn't.

The second part bolded part, he might have, but you don't know that either.

Third, who cares and lol at everyone acting like he's some serious journalist uncovering the Whitewater scandal. He's a young guy that writes for a recruiting website about college athletics. He isn't working for a newspaper or publication that requires any of that. It's all silly, and oh, he was right.
 
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douglasbader said:
I have a mea culpa. The whole time I thought McCollum was a worse option than Devries because he was in his mid-50's and Devries was in his late 40's. Thought he was a guy that was older and had been stuck in D-II forever.

Well fuck me when I saw that pic of him with Tom Davis at Iowa Camp and realize the mother fucker is FOURTY-THREE years old. The dude looks old as shit because of that terrible haircut.

Zero clue until that. I'm even more on board with this hire now.
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:icon_lol:

He looks like middle aged people used to look.
 
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newsbreaker said:
They weren't finalizing much if the only decision-maker was still entertaining offers and talking to other schools. He wanted credit for being the one to break coach-has-decided-to-go-to-school (which he was apparently just repeating from a discord feed) when that decision hadn't yet been made.

But either way, it isn't like he's an actual reporter who developed a source, worked that source to get inside information on the current status of the process, and then provided that service to the public. He repeated what was available to anyone with a debit card and enough money to buy a Big Mac. The entirety of the Iowa reporting ranks includes no actual reportage, which is the only reason this discussion has any value at all.
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Thanks, Kakert. How do you know he didn't have a source? Or worked the source for inside information? This "he just reported what he read on Trilly" is exactly what Kakert/Doc/etc are trying to feed everyone.
 
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Thanks, Kakert. How do you know he didn't have a source? Or worked the source for inside information? This "he just reported what he read on Trilly" is exactly what Kakert/Doc/etc are trying to feed everyone.
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I'm not paying $6 to some dork to say shit on discord, but wasn't the wording almost precise? I thought that's what someone said.

It doesn't matter. The point is, the difference between him and Kakert is about the thickness of a credit card. He's the least clownish clown in a very sad circus.
 
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DE said he had different sources then the other guys had. I heard that both WV and Drake were trying to sweeten the pot late yesterday and that Ben pushed hard for Iowa to up the NIL ante. The reporters could all be birdies on that Discord wire lol. They all are behind paywalls themselves. I texted another guy who has a contact in the know, that contact told him yesterday at mid day its official, when he went back to confirm with the contact, he didnt get a response. He then said into talking to this contact before yesterday, that the coach wasn't going to take the Iowa job if he did not feel the resources are there for him to be successful. So I think for that reason the deal was done already, but who knows. JMO
 
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DE said he had different sources then the other guys had. I heard that both WV and Drake were trying to sweeten the pot late yesterday and that Ben pushed hard for Iowa to up the NIL ante. The reporters could all be birdies on that Discord wire lol. They all are behind paywalls themselves. I texted another guy who has a contact in the know, that contact told him yesterday at mid day its official, when he went back to confirm with the contact, he didnt get a response. He then said into talking to this contact before yesterday, that the coach wasn't going to take the Iowa job if he did not feel the resources are there for him to be successful. So I think for that reason the deal was done already, but who knows. JMO
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lmao.
 
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Is it bad that I hope his son goes somewhere else? The stink of The Criminal and McCaffery kids won't wear off for a while
 
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Eickholt got his info from the $6 discord right? It's not like he went out and dug up the lead. He's a dork.
 
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