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Brady Ellingson and Ahmad Wagner posts can go in here now!
This is great. White may never play in the NBA, but he is going to play for about 15 years overseas and they love him. Look at the crowd and how nuts they are going.
"It's a White-out wipeout!"That announcer is awesome. Is it Aaron White or Michael Jordan?
this wont help thingsSounds like the guy has it coming. I hope Moe doesn't lose his titty bar.
the UAB transfer + Thomas should eat up the PG minutes so he can focus on shooting. they need to fill approximately 100 spots this offseason and balance the classes (Previous Coach somehow made a bad program worse in the long-term in 11 months) so I support it.
Still a sweet stroke.
Justin Wieck is not a head coach. He is Chad Walthall's top assistant. For the second time.Horner was also in play for some job in Minnesota that former player Justin Weick got
That doesn't matter as much to him. Being a head coach was a higher priority for him.going from D1 assistant to D2 head coach seems like a weird step. stupid people thought he was a candidate for the Drake HC job, which was dumb, but it seems like he could have gone the Dean-O route and gradually moved up D1 as an assistant before shooting for a lower D1 head job.
Dean is grinding it out to the tune of $210,000 per year. That puts him barely in the middle class in Iowa after he maxes out his 403b...That doesn't matter as much to him. Being a head coach was a higher priority for him.going from D1 assistant to D2 head coach seems like a weird step. stupid people thought he was a candidate for the Drake HC job, which was dumb, but it seems like he could have gone the Dean-O route and gradually moved up D1 as an assistant before shooting for a lower D1 head job.
Biding your time as a D1 assistant is a looooooong process before you are even considered for a head job. And there's no guarantee either.
If I had to wager, I bet Dean-O not never getting a D1 head coaching job is more likely than eventually getting one.
Just depends how long you want to grind it out.
I would say neither is really “better” except for pay. The expectations are typically much lower at smaller schools, the travel sucks, the hours sucks, the season is long. All of these things still exist at the bigger schools or higher divisions, but your hours are typically worse (especially over the summer) and recruiting is harder and unless you are a decent school the travel still sucks. Coaching is interesting because you see some guys stay at D3 or NAIA schools for 15-20+ years and just remaining content.My brother in law took a different approach. Grinding it out on the head coaching route first at D3, then D2, before finally 20 years later getting his first low-major D1 head coach job. He had a ton of success, including an undefeated national champ season in D3, but took him years of interviews (and over 400 career wins and nearly .800 winning percentage) to make the jump to D1. Downside of that route is a LOT of long bus rides to really shitty towns in the middle of nowhere. At least as a D1 assistant you get the perks that a bigger budget brings. Not sure which way is "Better" than the other if the ultimate goal is to be a D1 head coach.
16K? did he have another job?Our d2 assistant that was making 16k two years ago is making 120k as the Louisville DBO. He’s a really good guy, really happy for him.
His wife worked in medical sales. He was only here for two years then went to a lower level d1 last year.16K? did he have another job?Our d2 assistant that was making 16k two years ago is making 120k as the Louisville DBO. He’s a really good guy, really happy for him.
He had a side job selling fluorescent shoes to fat guys. Made six figures.16K? did he have another job?Our d2 assistant that was making 16k two years ago is making 120k as the Louisville DBO. He’s a really good guy, really happy for him.
A lot of times their actual full time job is in admissions or academic advising.16K? did he have another job?Our d2 assistant that was making 16k two years ago is making 120k as the Louisville DBO. He’s a really good guy, really happy for him.
This worked for Woodley when he was there.Seems the Dean O route has a better chance due to recruiting ties. Truman State is hoping to pick up some all Metro! guys. Not really so much the high level programs and guys. He could sort of lose touch down there.
Yes, that definitely will work at the Truman State level. My point was that if your recruiting pipeline is places like Des Moines and the secondary market in STL and KC, it kind of puts you in different circles from a recruiting standpoint than an assistant at a high level D1 school (aka Oliver).This worked for Woodley when he was there.Seems the Dean O route has a better chance due to recruiting ties. Truman State is hoping to pick up some all Metro! guys. Not really so much the high level programs and guys. He could sort of lose touch down there.
Yes, that definitely will work at the Truman State level. My point was that if your recruiting pipeline is places like Des Moines and the secondary market in STL and KC, it kind of puts you in different circles from a recruiting standpoint than an assistant at a high level D1 school (aka Oliver).This worked for Woodley when he was there.Seems the Dean O route has a better chance due to recruiting ties. Truman State is hoping to pick up some all Metro! guys. Not really so much the high level programs and guys. He could sort of lose touch down there.
https://www.umdbulldogs.com/news/2018/4/26/umd-names-wieck-as-its-new-head-mens-basketball-coach.aspxJustin Wieck is not a head coach. He is Chad Walthall's top assistant. For the second time.Horner was also in play for some job in Minnesota that former player Justin Weick got
Good for Justin, and lucky for you that he got a job a week after you said he was already a head coach so you look less wrong.https://www.umdbulldogs.com/news/2018/4/26/umd-names-wieck-as-its-new-head-mens-basketball-coach.aspxJustin Wieck is not a head coach. He is Chad Walthall's top assistant. For the second time.Horner was also in play for some job in Minnesota that former player Justin Weick got
@wondergrape
He had already accepted the job when I posted that. They were just waiting to complete the background investigationGood for Justin, and lucky for you that he got a job a week after you said he was already a head coach so you look less wrong.https://www.umdbulldogs.com/news/2018/4/26/umd-names-wieck-as-its-new-head-mens-basketball-coach.aspxJustin Wieck is not a head coach. He is Chad Walthall's top assistant. For the second time.
@wondergrape
Huh. You're like a Moorhead insider! Uncanny!He had already accepted the job when I posted that. They were just waiting to complete the background investigationGood for Justin, and lucky for you that he got a job a week after you said he was already a head coach so you look less wrong.
You are wrong. For the second time.Huh. You're like a Moorhead insider! Uncanny!He had already accepted the job when I posted that. They were just waiting to complete the background investigationGood for Justin, and lucky for you that he got a job a week after you said he was already a head coach so you look less wrong.
You aren't a Moorhead insider then? Remember when you were wrong in February when you said he was a head coach and he wasn't, and then you were wrong a week ago, but secretly had inside information that you didn't share with anybody for some reason which now makes you RATT.You are wrong. For the second time.Huh. You're like a Moorhead insider! Uncanny!He had already accepted the job when I posted that. They were just waiting to complete the background investigation
you got caught with your pants down here, Mr. Rape. be a man and apologize and take your lickings.You aren't a Moorhead insider then? Remember when you were wrong in February when you said he was a head coach and he wasn't, and then you were wrong a week ago, but secretly had inside information that you didn't share with anybody for some reason which now makes you RATT.You are wrong. For the second time.Huh. You're like a Moorhead insider! Uncanny!
Welp, good for you, NLP.