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CamelTones

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He’s got 2 young kids and owns a house in North Liberty. I wouldn’t be shocked if he plays 4-5 years until his kids are in school then hangs it up.

In terms of former players I would love to see on Frans staff he’s probably at the top of my list. Guy understands how to play more than any Iowa player in recent memory.
 

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That announcer is awesome. Is it Aaron White or Michael Jordan?
 

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I'm so excited White added an awful tattoo to his already incredibly dorky look. God it must feel so shameful to get dunked on by him and dunking on people is almost literally all he does. He's the best
 
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the UAB transfer + Thomas should eat up the PG minutes so he can focus on shooting. they need to fill approximately 100 spots this offseason and balance the classes (Previous Coach somehow made a bad program worse in the long-term in 11 months) so I support it.
 

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Horner was also in play for some job in Minnesota that former player Justin Weick got
 

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Foster left Truman for McKendree. Better recruiting I suppose. Plus not having to live in Kirksville.
 

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Truman St is a dead end job. Weird choice, but probably a decent hire.
 
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going from D1 assistant to D2 head coach seems like a weird step. stupid people thought he was a candidate for the Drake HC job, which was dumb, but it seems like he could have gone the Dean-O route and gradually moved up D1 as an assistant before shooting for a lower D1 head job.
 

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going from D1 assistant to D2 head coach seems like a weird step. stupid people thought he was a candidate for the Drake HC job, which was dumb, but it seems like he could have gone the Dean-O route and gradually moved up D1 as an assistant before shooting for a lower D1 head job.
That doesn't matter as much to him. Being a head coach was a higher priority for him.

Biding your time as a D1 assistant is a looooooong process before you are even considered for a head job. And there's no guarantee either.

If I had to wager, I bet Dean-O not never getting a D1 head coaching job is more likely than eventually getting one.

Just depends how long you want to grind it out.
 

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Jerry Wollmering (Truman AD) knew Jess Settles' brother Jake well. I have no idea if that was any connection of importance.
 

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Jerry is from Iowa and has a good following of Iowa athletics.
 
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going from D1 assistant to D2 head coach seems like a weird step. stupid people thought he was a candidate for the Drake HC job, which was dumb, but it seems like he could have gone the Dean-O route and gradually moved up D1 as an assistant before shooting for a lower D1 head job.
That doesn't matter as much to him. Being a head coach was a higher priority for him.

Biding your time as a D1 assistant is a looooooong process before you are even considered for a head job. And there's no guarantee either.

If I had to wager, I bet Dean-O not never getting a D1 head coaching job is more likely than eventually getting one.

Just depends how long you want to grind it out.
Dean is grinding it out to the tune of $210,000 per year. That puts him barely in the middle class in Iowa after he maxes out his 403b...
 

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My brother in law took a different approach. Grinding it out on the head coaching route first at D3, then D2, before finally 20 years later getting his first low-major D1 head coach job. He had a ton of success, including an undefeated national champ season in D3, but took him years of interviews (and over 400 career wins and nearly .800 winning percentage) to make the jump to D1. Downside of that route is a LOT of long bus rides to really shitty towns in the middle of nowhere. At least as a D1 assistant you get the perks that a bigger budget brings. Not sure which way is "Better" than the other if the ultimate goal is to be a D1 head coach.
 

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My brother in law took a different approach. Grinding it out on the head coaching route first at D3, then D2, before finally 20 years later getting his first low-major D1 head coach job. He had a ton of success, including an undefeated national champ season in D3, but took him years of interviews (and over 400 career wins and nearly .800 winning percentage) to make the jump to D1. Downside of that route is a LOT of long bus rides to really shitty towns in the middle of nowhere. At least as a D1 assistant you get the perks that a bigger budget brings. Not sure which way is "Better" than the other if the ultimate goal is to be a D1 head coach.
I would say neither is really “better” except for pay. The expectations are typically much lower at smaller schools, the travel sucks, the hours sucks, the season is long. All of these things still exist at the bigger schools or higher divisions, but your hours are typically worse (especially over the summer) and recruiting is harder and unless you are a decent school the travel still sucks. Coaching is interesting because you see some guys stay at D3 or NAIA schools for 15-20+ years and just remaining content.
 

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Seems the Dean O route has a better chance due to recruiting ties. Truman State is hoping to pick up some all Metro! guys. Not really so much the high level programs and guys. He could sort of lose touch down there.
 

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Our d2 assistant that was making 16k two years ago is making 120k as the Louisville DBO. He’s a really good guy, really happy for him.
 

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Seems the Dean O route has a better chance due to recruiting ties. Truman State is hoping to pick up some all Metro! guys. Not really so much the high level programs and guys. He could sort of lose touch down there.
This worked for Woodley when he was there.
 

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Seems the Dean O route has a better chance due to recruiting ties. Truman State is hoping to pick up some all Metro! guys. Not really so much the high level programs and guys. He could sort of lose touch down there.
This worked for Woodley when he was there.
Yes, that definitely will work at the Truman State level. My point was that if your recruiting pipeline is places like Des Moines and the secondary market in STL and KC, it kind of puts you in different circles from a recruiting standpoint than an assistant at a high level D1 school (aka Oliver).
 

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Seems the Dean O route has a better chance due to recruiting ties. Truman State is hoping to pick up some all Metro! guys. Not really so much the high level programs and guys. He could sort of lose touch down there.
This worked for Woodley when he was there.
Yes, that definitely will work at the Truman State level. My point was that if your recruiting pipeline is places like Des Moines and the secondary market in STL and KC, it kind of puts you in different circles from a recruiting standpoint than an assistant at a high level D1 school (aka Oliver).
 

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Aaron White gets @Gushawk’s Approval
 
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Google suggests that Horner was making less than $50k per year. holy shit.
 

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Horner was also in play for some job in Minnesota that former player Justin Weick got
Justin Wieck is not a head coach. He is Chad Walthall's top assistant. For the second time.
https://www.umdbulldogs.com/news/2018/4/26/umd-names-wieck-as-its-new-head-mens-basketball-coach.aspx

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Good for Justin, and lucky for you that he got a job a week after you said he was already a head coach so you look less wrong.
 

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Good for Justin, and lucky for you that he got a job a week after you said he was already a head coach so you look less wrong.
He had already accepted the job when I posted that. They were just waiting to complete the background investigation
 

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Good for Justin, and lucky for you that he got a job a week after you said he was already a head coach so you look less wrong.
He had already accepted the job when I posted that. They were just waiting to complete the background investigation
Huh. You're like a Moorhead insider! Uncanny!
 

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He had already accepted the job when I posted that. They were just waiting to complete the background investigation
Huh. You're like a Moorhead insider! Uncanny!
You are wrong. For the second time.
You aren't a Moorhead insider then? Remember when you were wrong in February when you said he was a head coach and he wasn't, and then you were wrong a week ago, but secretly had inside information that you didn't share with anybody for some reason which now makes you RATT.

Welp, good for you, NLP.
 

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G-rape you’re outclassed here. Just take your pwnage just like the countless others have throughout the years at the hands of @nolookpass
 
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Huh. You're like a Moorhead insider! Uncanny!
You are wrong. For the second time.
You aren't a Moorhead insider then? Remember when you were wrong in February when you said he was a head coach and he wasn't, and then you were wrong a week ago, but secretly had inside information that you didn't share with anybody for some reason which now makes you RATT.

Welp, good for you, NLP.
you got caught with your pants down here, Mr. Rape. be a man and apologize and take your lickings.
 
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