douglasbader
Said Tom Brady's Career Was Over in 2008
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Which makes my point. You are not going to shoot well every game. In the games where you have cold shooting, you win with defense and fundamentals. You apparently are simply willing to lose all those games.Ultimately the game on Saturday wasn't much different than the North Carolina game. The defense was about identical. Iowa got any shot they wanted. The difference is that Iowa hit their shots in one game and not the other. Welcome to basketball.
LOL. Yeah, its just like that.This is like saying it's freezing, having someone else point out it's 45, and then staunchly trying to pretend everyone else was telling you that it's warm out.
Again, you show your lack of perception. I suspect that Purdue is a team that we can simply outscore, even if we are hitting everything. You simply aren't very bright.Maybe you would be more comfortable posting in the thread below @coff , these people seem more your speed. Iowa has a legit Top 5 team and coff's bullshit and comments like below become the loudest voices every single time. The comments are from the Purdue game preview tomorrow.
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no, I’m not. I am arguing that this set of players will need to sacrifice some offense to get better at defense. Which could be incorrect.Nobody is arguing Iowa is a good defensive team. L.Wade is arguing that Iowa isn't capable of being better, but that's as close as you'll find on here.
No, you fucking moron. Everyone is trying to point out to you from the start that the huge difference in this particular game was that Gonzaga hit a volume and percentage of three pointers that is much much higher than their norm. That wasn't something due to bad defense, it was due to bad luck.Which makes my point. You are not going to shoot well every game. In the games where you have cold shooting, you win with defense and fundamentals. You apparently are simply willing to lose all those games.
.Not to mention that he can’t form any of his own thoughts outside of “play better defense” and instead just tells everyone they know nothing.
What specifically should they do better coff? Would you prefer less man to man and more zone? Which zone? Or would you prefer more man to man?
That is both wrong and stupid. They hit more 3s because they were not effectively defended in most cases.No, you fucking moron. Everyone is trying to point out to you from the start that the huge difference in this particular game was that Gonzaga hit a volume and percentage of three pointers that is much much higher than their norm. That wasn't something due to bad defense, it was due to bad luck.
Not a single person (other than maybe in a stupid way L. Wade) is saying Iowa can't or shouldn't get better on the defensive end. For fuck's sake how do you not understand this?
Do you know what else can costs us ballgames? Playing the #1 team.Seriously, people are saying that we should be happy because we held their 2 point shot % down below Mikey's silly and meaningless average. In any event, I simply reject the notion that this team is as good as it can possible be on defense. While one cannot magically make players quicker, a team can work harder, especially for things like getting back to stop fast breaks, helping on drives, and boxing out for defensive rebounds. Effort on the defensive end is lacking. That will cost us ball games
When it comes to 3 point percentage, that is absolutely what it means. It is largely random. We've been trying to explain this to you for the last page or so.I'm all in on the dougie theory of defense: Made shots don't result from bad defense, they are just bad luck.
I’d like to think there are two kind of basketball fans: those who like statistics and those who really like them. The difference between the groups is that the latter wants to truly understand which numbers are meaningful. The motivated analyst is constantly questioning which numbers represent a repeatable skill and which are the product of randomness.
That brings us to the topic of 3-point defense. It’s seductive to think that every 3-point attempt that goes through the net is the result of a defensive breakdown and every missed 3 is the result of defensive success. That is the way things should be. Everyone gets what they deserve! But if we are being honest, we understand that’s not the way things work. Unexplainable randomness abounds in sports, and basketball is no different.
I make this point every other year or so, and if you’re a loyal reader I apologize for the repetition, but 3-point defense is among the lowest-hanging randomness...
Bad 3 point defense is letting your opponent TAKE a lot of 3s.
lol. Do you think better defensive teams than iowa don’t have below average defensive games???Which makes my point. You are not going to shoot well every game. In the games where you have cold shooting, you win with defense and fundamentals. You apparently are simply willing to lose all those games.
That was basically my point earlier. There is no sense in going back and forth with someone who thinks Saturday was some kind of indictment on the Hawks. They’re really good. The AP knows they’re really good. The Coaches know they’re really good. Kenpom and every over analytics ranking site/service knows they’re really good. If that is not enough, then there is no hope. Some people just prefer the misery.Fuck all of this shit. I'm not going to spend the majority of the season explaining simple fucking logic and statistical concepts to complete fucking moron Walmart Iowa Fan every single time they lose a game. Iowa is going to lose 4-5 more games, and every time it will be the same shit. PLAY DEFENSE!!!! JOE T SHOULD START!!!! bohannon LIKES TO PLAY FORTNITE TOO MUCH!!!!
Here is to enjoying the rest of 2020-2021 Iowa Basketball and ignoring these fucks other than a random jab to make fun of them. If they don't get shit after that, we should all just tell them to fuck off.
And I said essentially the same thing 3-4 pages ago.Two pages ago.
One small disagreement here. A challenged three is a lower percentage shot. But your overall point is correct. In fact now that I think abt it I don’t think I disagree with you.Defenses have a bigger influence on number of threes attempted, not on percentage of those threes that are made.
So there was no need to play this game? Let's just set records based on rankings and never play again.Do you know what else can costs us ballgames? Playing the #1 team.
I was, and still am, a much better athlete than you, lumpy.LOL that @coff thinks he was some stud athlete in his day. Why does this board attract such big liars?
Suggs was a 30.4% 3 point shooter in AAU ball where he got wide open shots all day because nobody plays defense, and 20something percent in all his FIBA action. Yet coff thinks it’s bad defense if we don’t get up on the jock of this quick as shit drive on anybody 6’5 point guard 35 feet away from the basket with our 6’0 point guards.
Sure they do, but that is a silly point. They don't have bad defensive games as often, and they are not as bad to begin with.lol. Do you think better defensive teams than iowa don’t have below average defensive games???
False, but you need to resort to dishonesty to participate.Suggs was a 30.4% 3 point shooter in AAU ball where he got wide open shots all day because nobody plays defense, and 20something percent in all his FIBA action. Yet coff thinks it’s bad defense if we don’t get up on the jock of this quick as shit drive on anybody 6’5 point guard 35 feet away from the basket with our 6’0 point guards.
Well, those good defensive teams that have bad defensive games better score! They should shoot better!Sure they do, but that is a silly point. They don't have bad defensive games as often, and they are not as bad to begin with.
They should try their best to play as well as they can with respect to all aspects of the game. Difficult concept for you, I guess.Well, those good defensive teams that have bad defensive games better score! They should shoot better!
You've never played a real competitive sport in your entire pathetic existence.I was, and still am, a much better athlete than you, lumpy.
Oh, coff.They should try their best to play as well as they can with respect to all aspects of the game. Difficult concept for you, I guess.
Played some college BB and tennis. That's all.You've never played a real competitive sport in your entire pathetic existence.
Had any good pizza lately?We should keep talking about this
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLPlayed some college BB and tennis. That's all.
He totally played basketball for Lute Olson at Iowa in the Final Four era.LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
No, I didn't, and never claimed I did. I played at a small school before I transferred to Iowa. I played a ton of pickup with guys from that team, however. I was good friends with Steve Waite (we were both finance majors and had a ton of classes together). Lots of summer pickup games with Waite, Kevin Boyle, Mark Gannon, Tom Norman, etc.He totally played basketball for Lute Olson at Iowa in the Final Four era.
Was bedpan licking a sport where you went to school, wet nurse?LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
So in the late 1970's you went out for basketball and tennis at some school like William Penn or Central and then you played at the Fieldhouse or similar for fun like every other student who has ever attended the University of Iowa.No, I didn't, and never claimed I did. I played at a small school before I transferred to Iowa. I played a ton of pickup with guys from that team, however. I was good friends with Steve Waite (we were both finance majors and had a ton of classes together). Lots of summer pickup games with Waite, Kevin Boyle, Mark Gannon, Tom Norman, etc.
He probably also didn't have to recruit non-student ringers to be on his team either.I bet you don't even have back to back intramural championships. What a fucking loser.