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What the fuck is wrong with you guys? How in the world do you go from an AAU guy was a pervert to that being a reason to drive Fran out of his Iowa job?
obviously hes taken a look at other jobs in the recent past. That, and this season being a dumpster fire and the barnstormers thing...what reasonable guy wouldn't consider 'screw this"?
 

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What the fuck is wrong with you guys? How in the world do you go from an AAU guy was a pervert to that being a reason to drive Fran out of his Iowa job?
obviously hes taken a look at other jobs in the recent past. That, and this season being a dumpster fire and the barnstormers thing...what reasonable guy wouldn't consider 'screw this"?
He took a look at other jobs the year he lost 4 seniors and his profile was the highest it had ever been. Every coach in the world does that so to act like that is some reason to point at is silly.

Now his profile is the lowest it has ever been, taking another job would be a step down at best, he would have to find a school for Connor that had baseball and basketball AND he would have to sit out ANOTHER year and uproot his entire family including 2 younger kids. Not to mention the likely $500k+ paycut.

It makes zero sense unless his top players transfer out on him.
 

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I'm not predicting he will go just saying I could see it happening.
 

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I'm not predicting he will go just saying I could see it happening.
But the reasons you are giving don't make any sense. This isn't like McDermott or Alford where they had shit coming back and were likely to get run out of town the next season.
 

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Dochterman should ask Fran if he is thinking about leaving after this latest news.
 

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That bottom half of the last page reads like an episode of First Take.
 

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I'm not predicting he will go just saying I could see it happening.
But the reasons you are giving don't make any sense. This isn't like McDermott or Alford where they had shit coming back and were likely to get run out of town the next season.
Let's play Devil's Advocate. Let's pretend that that sick pervert has videos of one of McCaffrey's children. If you were the father of a child like that, you wouldn't consider going somewhere else where this wouldn't be big news?
 

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I'm not predicting he will go just saying I could see it happening.
But the reasons you are giving don't make any sense. This isn't like McDermott or Alford where they had shit coming back and were likely to get run out of town the next season.
Let's play Devil's Advocate. Let's pretend that that sick pervert has videos of one of McCaffrey's children. If you were the father of a child like that, you wouldn't consider going somewhere else where this wouldn't be big news?
Let's pretend a scenario where the details are completely made up or speculated on. Ok.

With that said, no, I wouldn't consider going somewhere else because that story would follow and I'm not giving up my good job with excellent stability and damn good incoming players and more $$$$ than anyone else would dream of paying me. I'm not going to uproot my entire family to make a shit downward move for less money.
 

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I'm not predicting he will go just saying I could see it happening.
But the reasons you are giving don't make any sense. This isn't like McDermott or Alford where they had shit coming back and were likely to get run out of town the next season.
Let's play Devil's Advocate. Let's pretend that that sick pervert has videos of one of McCaffrey's children. If you were the father of a child like that, you wouldn't consider going somewhere else where this wouldn't be big news?
This is retarded
 

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Here, I will play retard advocate for this post.

The only school that honestly would worry me a little that Fran might consider leaving for and might be desperate enough for a rebuild specialist would be Pitt. They are in a disaster situation with Kevin Stallings and that is an ACC school with a decent baseball program and in Fran's home state that would be a great fit if they had an opening.

Fran might uproot his family for that job.
 

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Here, I will play retard advocate for this post.

The only school that honestly would worry me a little that Fran might consider leaving for and might be desperate enough for a rebuild specialist would be Pitt. They are in a disaster situation with Kevin Stallings and that is an ACC school with a decent baseball program and in Fran's home state that would be a great fit if they had an opening.

Fran might uproot his family for that job.
Yeah but what if his kid saw coach Stephen masturbating?? Then what would you do!?
 

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I'm also going to bet that as sick and twisted as Greg Stephen is, my guess is he knew enough to stay away from the high profile kids and prey on the weak.
 

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Pitt has been my prediction as well. It’s perfect for him.

Fran was completely betrayed by someone his entire family trusted all the way down to his youngest kid. I’m not making a prediction but it wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
 

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Pitt has been my prediction as well. It’s perfect for him.

Fran was completely betrayed by someone his entire family trusted all the way down to his youngest kid. I’m not making a prediction but it wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
The problem with Pitt is they just hired the pasty old white guy who was only solid at his current job and at his lowest point when taking the job when they hired Stallings.

I think it would be nearly impossible for them to fire Stallings and turn around and hire Fran coming off a last place finish in the Big Ten and a section of fans grumbling for his removal.
 

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Pitt has been my prediction as well. It’s perfect for him.

Fran was completely betrayed by someone his entire family trusted all the way down to his youngest kid. I’m not making a prediction but it wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
Yeah, I don't know if being betrayed by an AAU coach means he says fuck the University of Iowa and bolts. Doesn't make much sense, and as much as he was betrayed by Greg Stephen he also helped get him a couple of really good players.
 

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That’s fair. It’s just so messed up that I’m not sure what to think. They’ve obviously already been through a lot with their family.
 

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That’s fair. It’s just so messed up that I’m not sure what to think. They’ve obviously already been through a lot with their family.
Right, but none of it has a single thing to do with the University of Iowa or his job.

If anything, Patrick got cancer and the University Hospitals helped save his life. Connor happened to get sick and have to redshirt this season.

What else have they been through? If anything, Iowa has been fantastic to Fran and his family.
 
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I wasn’t suggesting that he’s leaving. That’s just ignorant, I was just saying that between cancer, the botched tonsillitis and the fapping pedo AAU coach, it hasn’t been the best stretch for the two of them.
 

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Remember when Douglasbader said he was going to stop being such an insufferable asshole on here? That lasted about 15 minutes.
 

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A man may have jacked off to my son. I'm moving to Pennsylvania!
Nobody in the great state of Pennsylvania, and especially at their flagship state university, would ever even consider taking advantage of young boys. If you are going to escape pedophilia, everyone knows you head as close as you can get to Happy Valley.
 

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Pitt has been my prediction as well. It’s perfect for him.

Fran was completely betrayed by someone his entire family trusted all the way down to his youngest kid. I’m not making a prediction but it wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
 

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A man may have jacked off to my son. I'm moving to Pennsylvania!
Nobody in the great state of Pennsylvania, and especially at their flagship state university, would ever even consider taking advantage of young boys. If you are going to escape pedophilia, everyone knows you head as close as you can get to Happy Valley.
 

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I was going along with your joke.
 

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Pitt has been my prediction as well. It’s perfect for him.

Fran was completely betrayed by someone his entire family trusted all the way down to his youngest kid. I’m not making a prediction but it wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

LOL. Point taken. I have been saying for awhile that Pitt would be a great fit. Not a prediction.
 

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If one of Fran’s kids was one of the victims, moving to Pittsburgh isn’t going to get rid of the story.
 

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Let's say you're an attorney, or a plumber, or a semi-driver and this happened, would you move?
 

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Let's say you're an attorney, or a plumber, or a semi-driver and this happened, would you move?
If you’re a Halo poster, you may want to send your kid(s) to gay conversion therapy. ;)
 

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If one of Fran’s kids was one of the victims, moving to Pittsburgh isn’t going to get rid of the story.
I'm guessing whats a big story in Iowa city and whats a big story in Pittsburgh are 2 different things. Most people in cities with pro teams pay little attention to college sports.
 

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Let's say you're an attorney, or a plumber, or a semi-driver and this happened, would you move?
they don't report on who's the possible parent in the newspaper if you have those gigs.
 

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Fran leaving would take the following....

- Connor has to lose another full year and can't participate in athletics until fall of 2019 and only has 3 years to play
- Patrick leaves his friends and team his Senior year to go to a prep school or new high school
- The other kids and wife are uprooted from the only community they have known and lose all their friends
- Fran walks away from Wieskamp and likely Cook/Garza/Nunge/bohannon.
- Fran has to look Barta in the eye who has fully supported him and basically stab him in the back
- Fran likely takes a large paycut

That is a whole lot of fucking up your career and other people's lives just so you can take a lateral or downward move and paycut to walk into a situation that likely needs a complete rebuild and won't be good for 2-3 years at best.

I don't know, but if I am Fran I likely think to myself this year was a bad set of circumstances and make a few adjustments and see if Iowa can get back on track next year.
 

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If one of Fran’s kids was one of the victims, moving to Pittsburgh isn’t going to get rid of the story.
I'm guessing whats a big story in Iowa city and whats a big story in Pittsburgh are 2 different things. Most people in cities with pro teams pay little attention to college sports.
I’m not sure I had ever heard anything about the Michigan State Gymnastics program until the sexual abuse scandal.
 

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Let's play Devil's Advocate. Let's pretend that that sick pervert has videos of one of McCaffrey's children. If you were the father of a child like that, you wouldn't consider going somewhere else where this wouldn't be big news?
I still can't get over how retarded this is.
 

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Let's play Devil's Advocate. Let's pretend that that sick pervert has videos of one of McCaffrey's children. If you were the father of a child like that, you wouldn't consider going somewhere else where this wouldn't be big news?
I still can't get over how retarded this is.
I'm guessing you've never worked with or counselled victims of sexual abuse.

Sometimes they feel a geographical change is the best way to deal with it.
 

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Let's play Devil's Advocate. Let's pretend that that sick pervert has videos of one of McCaffrey's children. If you were the father of a child like that, you wouldn't consider going somewhere else where this wouldn't be big news?
I still can't get over how retarded this is.
I'm guessing you've never worked with or counselled victims of sexual abuse.

Sometimes they feel a geographical change is the best way to deal with it.
Fran's kids weren't sexually abused.
 

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I'm guessing you've never worked with or counselled victims of sexual abuse.

Sometimes they feel a geographical change is the best way to deal with it.
Fran's kids weren't sexually abused.
how do you know?
Because Patrick and Connor have both already expressed open shock about it and that they had no idea. I'm guessing Jack didn't get abused either.

Stop making shit up to cover for a stupid scenario you created.

Fran's kids weren't sexually abused in the Barnstormers program.
 
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