This is perfect. With this week's announcements, the three players you list above are finalists for the Doak Walker (Hall--"fantasic" OK), Lombardi (Rose -- "really good but no Jack Campbell" homer undersell), and Mackey (Kolar --"decent college level player" LOL) Awards.
But it's ISU fans that are out of line in their praise of their players...not the level headed Iowa fans that may just be biased against them...
Might Campbell be a better pro than Rose? I'm on record as saying probably. But no need to knock down the quality of college players they are just because they're on the other team. Even Purdy has been dragged by Hawk fans for years and plenty of ISU fans...but there's no doubt that he's the best ISU QB ever, and on the short list of best QBs this state have ever seen. To compare him to Petras and Padilla is beyond LOL worthy. (much as a couple of his bad highlights are...but the good ones never seem to make it over to this site...)
Ok, so we're apparently in agreement on Hall
On Rose, are you aware of what the Lombardi is? You seem to think it's for the nation's best LB. Are you getting this confused with the Butkus? Because Rose IS really good. But he's not one of the best LB in the country. And most certainly will not be one of the most successful at the next level, the NFL. What exactly is it you are arguing here? Because Rose isn't a Butkus finalist, he isn't going to be among the top LB drafted. So where exactly do you think he fits between "really good" and "ELITE!!!"
And the Mackey finalist list is a joke. Not for including Kolar, but because it has NEITHER Mayer (ND) or Bowers (GA) on it. Leaving BOTH off is insane. Those guys have elite NFL profiles, Kolar does not. He's a a good college player.
I'm struggling to see where you even feel slighted here
@eclone
This feels an awful lot like the typical inability of an Iowa State fan to say "they're good," or "they're great" and have to rocket all the way to "holy fuck they cured cancer and I'd let 5-0 and him run a train on my wife!!!"