**Iowa vs. Iowa State Basketball - 12/12/19 - 7pm - ESPN2**

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Without Haliburton next year it might be a little rough for the clones.
 

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Prohm’s boatraced by Fran. Iowa looked good. Iowa State did not.
Iowa is just well balanced. They have a dominant skilled big man, multiple shooters, can play defense when they want, ridiculously efficient offense and play hard.

No shame in losing to them.
 

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I had to dvr and just finished, really hope the girl screaming “rebound” next to the mic all night is crying in her beer at a frat house right now.

This may not be the best team Fran has ever had, but they just play a little different.

Frederick is better than Moss, and we get him for 3 more years.
 

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When Dakich was describing the fast break philosophy with Wieskamp racing down the floor and setting up on one side for three, and Fredrick racing down to the opposite side for three, and Luka racing down to post up in the middle, I had some tingles in my penus.
 

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Deep in my heart I did not actually think CJ would be better than Moss


Luckily I have no heart
 

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Joe T had a moment toward the end that was troublesome, but man he does some fantastic things. The pass to Garza was something Iowa fans have wanted for a long time. He’s going to be very good.
 

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The thing that really surprised me about Iowa State is how badly they sucked. Really caught me with my guard down.
 
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Joe T had a moment toward the end that was troublesome, but man he does some fantastic things. The pass to Garza was something Iowa fans have wanted for a long time. He’s going to be very good.
The moment got a little too big for him in about a 2 min stretch.

Fran surprised me tonight. 2nd half rotation got tighter.

Yanked Joe T when he went spaz.

Benched Pemsl.
 
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Joe T had a moment toward the end that was troublesome, but man he does some fantastic things. The pass to Garza was something Iowa fans have wanted for a long time. He’s going to be very good.
Both freshman are good and have big ol' testes.
 

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I love having @HiawathaHawk in chat. He was salty as fuck, drunk on bourbon, talking shit and having a great time.
 

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I had to dvr and just finished, really hope the girl screaming “rebound” next to the mic all night is crying in her beer at a frat house right now.

This may not be the best team Fran has ever had, but they just play a little different.

Frederick is better than Moss, and we get him for 3 more years.
Probably will be too busy grazing, I mean intaking calories to maintain her ISU cheerleader physique. And when she gets done doing that she'll be sucking a lot of dicks, I mean paying rent to maintain her low totem status at a sorority house.
 

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How any team would ever switch off Halliburton going forward I have no idea. You want everyone else on that team to shoot.

He can score 30 and you should still win by 10.
 

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Joe T had a moment toward the end that was troublesome, but man he does some fantastic things. The pass to Garza was something Iowa fans have wanted for a long time. He’s going to be very good.
The moment got a little too big for him in about a 2 min stretch.

Fran surprised me tonight. 2nd half rotation got tighter.

Yanked Joe T when he went spaz.

Benched Pemsl.
Fran coached a great game. He fucked up twice not calling a timeout, but nothing huge.

He is a better coach when he is under the gun and isn't physically able to play more than 8 or maybe 9 guys.

Most teams in a 40 minute game really shouldn't and can't play more. The days of him playing 12 guys in the first half were the worst.
 

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Pemsl didn’t play in the second half, did he? That was good.

ISU really sucks. Prohm is just an awful coach.
 

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Likely not going to watch.

Their 'coach' has succeeded in making this game that toxic and unenjoyable and that's saying something considering I watch WV-ISU twice a year.

Either way onto the next for ISU and hope they can get things going for conference season.
I’m already looking forward to the twitter smack Georges is gonna throw his way after the game..... because we all know that’s going to happen.
Yeah J-Bo is setting himself up quite well to get bombarded on social media. He probably won't say anything about the loss, but will post a sappy post about it being his last game and then Hawk fans can claim us Iowa State fans are awful for berating an injured player.
Had to share somewhere. Overheard co-worker talking on the phone about betting on the game. He's a huge sports fan and gambler, but super Hawk-centric. No, never attended college anywhere.

"Why is ISU favored? Aren't we better than them? I guess it is on the road, we haven't played any real road games. They have that guy who is supposed to maybe play NBA next year."

I was just stunned he didn't know Halliburton's name. Bet he does after tonight.
That and the fact that I firmly believe Fran is going to be at his best tonight. I wish there was a prop bet on him getting a technical / getting ejected because I would hammer that bet. The crowd is going to be vicious and if the moment gets heated he's going to come unglued. Very excited to see that in person.
My Prediction: P Nixon goes Lefester Rhoads (sp?) on Iowa. Have a career night. The hoop will look the size of a swimming pool. Iowa can't play defense on him and ISU wins by 20.
These guys are playing like straight up garbage and owe guys like Niang, Naz, Thomas, Monte, Hogue, etc a huge apology for embarrassing their school like this.
WTF? They gave us a "flopping warning" and now they're reviewing a foul where an Iowa player clearly flopped? College basketball rules get more and more dumb by the year. Just drop college rules completely and play by NBA or FIBA rules.

Flagrant? WTF? This is a complete joke.
If we get one or two more fake flagrant fouls like that I say we go Pencil mode and just hurt some people. Might as well get our money's worth if they're calling flagrants for nothing.
Welp barring a huge comeback, another year and another Cy-Hawk game that one team plays like it's their Superbowl and the other team couldn't care less. Pretty much expected going forward when we go for more talented but out of state players who don't buy into the game versus lifelong Iowa fans who's success depends on beating ISU or not.
How are we getting hosed in our own house by the refs? Lol
CSP may not be the guy for the job.
This deep into your career and the McDoormat teams looked better.

He is going to destroy Hilton Magic if he doesn't get **** together soon.
Dude..

We just beat a very good Seton Hall team. Our guys just aren't amped for this game like Iowa is.
Every ISU player and coach should be absolutely ashamed of this pathetic effort. Getting schooled by Iowa. Iowa!
Was just going to post something like this. If I am an Iowa fan, I am happy but also really ticked off because it's so obvious how much Fran and the team put on the ISU game each year. If they brought this kind of effort every night they stepped on the court, you might actually get to see a team contend for a Big Ten regular season or tournament title. This is a lot how ISU fans felt with McCarney's teams. It was great and never got old beating Iowa, but then you turn around and go, "Wait, why the heck can't we bring that effort and beat teams in our conference? Especially when some of the ones we are losing to are far inferior to the Iowa team we keep beating."

That excuse has to get old.

Isu will come back and win, book it. Iowa isnt good.
All Prohm needs to do at the half is play Garza beating all the ISU players down the floor for an easy dunk and then laughing at ISU afterwards on a loop over and over again and force them to watch it.

If that doesn't motivate them, then you're done as a team this season because it means you have a roster full of guys that don't care, don't have respect for themselves or their school or their fans, and aren't competitors.

And if they don't have any of that, then just cancel the season.

How does Garza get away with so many travels and elbows. It makes no sense.
Iowa with a 4 on 1 there ONLY because 4 of their players beat 4 of our players down the court.

I'm just so sick and tired of ISU not seeming to care about this game since Niang left. It gets so old.

I think in football we at least care and want to win the game, and this year outplayed Iowa IMO, but just keep shooting ourselves in the foot. But the effort is there.

In MBB, we just don't even care about this game at all. How else can you explain beating #13 Seton Hall, and then just getting ran out of the gym against an average Iowa team?
Steve Prohm single handily killed Hilton Magic. Fred never bad to beg students to come to games. Maybe if he coached an exciting style of basketball and made winning at home a priority, you wouldn’t have to do that..
He won his "Super Bowl".... as he himself described it. So he should be happy. Will be his biggest win this season.

Prohm went to shake his hand afterwards, and of course JorBo blows him off. He's just such a d-bag. I wonder if Fran coaches that into his players or what?
Simone is going to have to explain the "contact above the neck is an automatic flagrant" rule to me. Garza blatantly elbowed Solomon twice in the face. Solomon was called for a blocking foul on one of them.
I can't lie - and this is probably my frustration talking and I'm sure I'll be better tomorrow - but this is as down on Prohm as I've been. How do you not have you guys up for this game, especially after what happened last year? There's just no excuse for it.

I will never stop laughing at bohannon, and that is the thing that will keep me going until we someday beat Iowa again. He thinks - and obviously Iowa fans think, judging from my social media - he is this Niang-level sh it talker, he and his 17% shooting percentage and his fake medical redshirt. He's climbed his Everest, beating Iowa State in Ames, and there's nowhere for him to go from here. So, so pathetic.QUOTE]


I actually enjoyed that game more than some of the wins.. I knew that crap lineups would continue because of prohms cluelessness and blind loyalty to transfer players and it was going to have to get bad before it got any better prohm playing Lewis made the game interesting for me. If they kept winning with those lineups the team would continue to be horrid. Maybe we make so progress now.. no I don’t buy that there isn’t a winning lineup on this roster. Now I’m hyped up for the changes next game.
Tonight just might be the peak of JorBo's basketball career, so I guess you just have to let him have his fun, laugh at him, and then he can go on his way and coach a high school team somewhere in the future.

I love how the commentators always said.... JorBo is a great COLLEGE basketball player. They never once said that he was just a great basketball player because they know college will be the highest level he reaches. Sure, he might get a little play overseas somewhere, but so do most college players.
 

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The encouraging thing for Iowa is they aren't fucking around with teams. They are putting mediocre to inferior teams away. 14 point win against Syracuse on the road. 20 point win against Minnesota. 14 point win against Iowa State on the road.
 

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Pemsl didn’t play in the second half, did he? That was good.

ISU really sucks. Prohm is just an awful coach.
I think people are figuring out he isn't a good coach.

He barely runs an offense. His players don't develop. He gets some really good recruits, but they take off quickly.

The only thing he has ever done above average is with players he had nothing to do with.
 

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Likely not going to watch.

Their 'coach' has succeeded in making this game that toxic and unenjoyable and that's saying something considering I watch WV-ISU twice a year.

Either way onto the next for ISU and hope they can get things going for conference season.
I’m already looking forward to the twitter smack Georges is gonna throw his way after the game..... because we all know that’s going to happen.
Yeah J-Bo is setting himself up quite well to get bombarded on social media. He probably won't say anything about the loss, but will post a sappy post about it being his last game and then Hawk fans can claim us Iowa State fans are awful for berating an injured player.
Had to share somewhere. Overheard co-worker talking on the phone about betting on the game. He's a huge sports fan and gambler, but super Hawk-centric. No, never attended college anywhere.

"Why is ISU favored? Aren't we better than them? I guess it is on the road, we haven't played any real road games. They have that guy who is supposed to maybe play NBA next year."

I was just stunned he didn't know Halliburton's name. Bet he does after tonight.
That and the fact that I firmly believe Fran is going to be at his best tonight. I wish there was a prop bet on him getting a technical / getting ejected because I would hammer that bet. The crowd is going to be vicious and if the moment gets heated he's going to come unglued. Very excited to see that in person.
My Prediction: P Nixon goes Lefester Rhoads (sp?) on Iowa. Have a career night. The hoop will look the size of a swimming pool. Iowa can't play defense on him and ISU wins by 20.
These guys are playing like straight up garbage and owe guys like Niang, Naz, Thomas, Monte, Hogue, etc a huge apology for embarrassing their school like this.
WTF? They gave us a "flopping warning" and now they're reviewing a foul where an Iowa player clearly flopped? College basketball rules get more and more dumb by the year. Just drop college rules completely and play by NBA or FIBA rules.

Flagrant? WTF? This is a complete joke.
If we get one or two more fake flagrant fouls like that I say we go Pencil mode and just hurt some people. Might as well get our money's worth if they're calling flagrants for nothing.
Welp barring a huge comeback, another year and another Cy-Hawk game that one team plays like it's their Superbowl and the other team couldn't care less. Pretty much expected going forward when we go for more talented but out of state players who don't buy into the game versus lifelong Iowa fans who's success depends on beating ISU or not.
How are we getting hosed in our own house by the refs? Lol
CSP may not be the guy for the job.
This deep into your career and the McDoormat teams looked better.

He is going to destroy Hilton Magic if he doesn't get **** together soon.
Dude..

We just beat a very good Seton Hall team. Our guys just aren't amped for this game like Iowa is.
Every ISU player and coach should be absolutely ashamed of this pathetic effort. Getting schooled by Iowa. Iowa!
Was just going to post something like this. If I am an Iowa fan, I am happy but also really ticked off because it's so obvious how much Fran and the team put on the ISU game each year. If they brought this kind of effort every night they stepped on the court, you might actually get to see a team contend for a Big Ten regular season or tournament title. This is a lot how ISU fans felt with McCarney's teams. It was great and never got old beating Iowa, but then you turn around and go, "Wait, why the heck can't we bring that effort and beat teams in our conference? Especially when some of the ones we are losing to are far inferior to the Iowa team we keep beating."

That excuse has to get old.

Isu will come back and win, book it. Iowa isnt good.
All Prohm needs to do at the half is play Garza beating all the ISU players down the floor for an easy dunk and then laughing at ISU afterwards on a loop over and over again and force them to watch it.

If that doesn't motivate them, then you're done as a team this season because it means you have a roster full of guys that don't care, don't have respect for themselves or their school or their fans, and aren't competitors.

And if they don't have any of that, then just cancel the season.

How does Garza get away with so many travels and elbows. It makes no sense.
Iowa with a 4 on 1 there ONLY because 4 of their players beat 4 of our players down the court.

I'm just so sick and tired of ISU not seeming to care about this game since Niang left. It gets so old.

I think in football we at least care and want to win the game, and this year outplayed Iowa IMO, but just keep shooting ourselves in the foot. But the effort is there.

In MBB, we just don't even care about this game at all. How else can you explain beating #13 Seton Hall, and then just getting ran out of the gym against an average Iowa team?
Steve Prohm single handily killed Hilton Magic. Fred never bad to beg students to come to games. Maybe if he coached an exciting style of basketball and made winning at home a priority, you wouldn’t have to do that..
He won his "Super Bowl".... as he himself described it. So he should be happy. Will be his biggest win this season.

Prohm went to shake his hand afterwards, and of course JorBo blows him off. He's just such a d-bag. I wonder if Fran coaches that into his players or what?
Simone is going to have to explain the "contact above the neck is an automatic flagrant" rule to me. Garza blatantly elbowed Solomon twice in the face. Solomon was called for a blocking foul on one of them.
I can't lie - and this is probably my frustration talking and I'm sure I'll be better tomorrow - but this is as down on Prohm as I've been. How do you not have you guys up for this game, especially after what happened last year? There's just no excuse for it.

I will never stop laughing at bohannon, and that is the thing that will keep me going until we someday beat Iowa again. He thinks - and obviously Iowa fans think, judging from my social media - he is this Niang-level sh it talker, he and his 17% shooting percentage and his fake medical redshirt. He's climbed his Everest, beating Iowa State in Ames, and there's nowhere for him to go from here. So, so pathetic.QUOTE]


I actually enjoyed that game more than some of the wins.. I knew that crap lineups would continue because of prohms cluelessness and blind loyalty to transfer players and it was going to have to get bad before it got any better prohm playing Lewis made the game interesting for me. If they kept winning with those lineups the team would continue to be horrid. Maybe we make so progress now.. no I don’t buy that there isn’t a winning lineup on this roster. Now I’m hyped up for the changes next game.
Tonight just might be the peak of JorBo's basketball career, so I guess you just have to let him have his fun, laugh at him, and then he can go on his way and coach a high school team somewhere in the future.

I love how the commentators always said.... JorBo is a great COLLEGE basketball player. They never once said that he was just a great basketball player because they know college will be the highest level he reaches. Sure, he might get a little play overseas somewhere, but so do most college players.
ISU as a fanbase tonight...
 

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Prohm’s boatraced by Fran. Iowa looked good. Iowa State did not.
The real question here is....did you booooo?
I don’t think I did. Was already 4-14 when I got to my seats. Worst game I’ve sat through in a long time. Iowa State played so stupid and Iowa capitalized on nearly every opportunity.
 

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Pemsl didn’t play in the second half, did he? That was good.

ISU really sucks. Prohm is just an awful coach.
I think people are figuring out he isn't a good coach.

He barely runs an offense. His players don't develop. He gets some really good recruits, but they take off quickly.

The only thing he has ever done above average is with players he had nothing to do with.
I could be very wrong on this down the road, but he is the absolute worst coach for Xavier Foster.
 

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The best part of this is that with this team it isn't fake "swagger" bullshit. They didn't just talk shit and play like pussies or back down when they made a run and the crowd got loud. They came in there to kick ass, talked shit along the way, and when they made a run, our dudes hit big fucking shots and shut them up. They didn't fold and get tight assholes when things got tight.

Fucking Connor of all people just drills a 3 on them. Then Joe gets a 3 point play. CJ got a great fucking deflection, Joe made a sweet ass pass on the break and we got the putback. Then they clanged bullshit prayer 3's. No pussies on this team. Pemsl sucks and he's fake tough but he's not really soft, he's just not good and forces stuff.

Luka is a fucking all-timer. CJ is gonna be an absolute stud. Connor is tough as fuck. bohannon is a legend. Joe is a stud and will figure it out but best of all will be back. Joe T. will spaz at times but is rare as hell around here and won't back down from anyone. Kriener frustrates us but is a damn good backup big man. Bakari kind of sucks on offense but he basically just plays D and doesn't screw anything up. Shit, Till will come in and hustle his ass off and know his role.

I don't know how far they'll go but this team is tougher than any we've had in a long ass time and is fucking fun to watch.
 
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Addition with subtraction for Garza. Losing Cook has decongested the paint and made Garza a focal point. Plus we have guards that get crucial boards and play defense with effort, not to mention they can all shoot it. Toussaint is going to be incredible, he’s already showing signs on both sides of the floor. Love this team.
 

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Who knows how it will end up by seasons end, but Iowa has racked up 3 quad 1 wins by 10+ points each already. Hell of a job by Fran and these guys
 

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Fuck Iowa State and all of their idiot fans! Halliburton shoots like a junior high girl! Lmfao!
 
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