Kirk’s son, Kirk’s son, Kirk’s son, Brian Ferentz (Kirk's back in the fight, boyz!!)

[AZmessDAWG]

People always underestimate the team aspect of this too. Sure there has to be some level of frustration but they all put in the same work.

There’s a level of respect for that regardless of what the other side of the ball accomplishes (or doesn’t in this case.)

 

[douglasbader]

Also, @CurdMan , the reaction to Brian's firing was met with Halo like delight behind the scenes. They are excited he's gone. Some might get other jobs because they are due (Seth Wallace), but it will have nothing to do with this.

 

[douglasbader]

Also, were any of us aware Paul Chryst's nephew is currently on staff? I did not know this.

Keller Chryst

Keller Chryst

hawkeyesports.com

 

[CurdMan]

Listen to yourself.

You are saying the defensive coaches might leave because they are fed up with Brian being on the staff and things not improving, so the second that he has been publicly fired/executed, NOW they are going to take off en mass?

It would be far more logical that these coaches would be excited the program is getting rid of Brian and getting someone new and have what appears to be a re-invigorated Kirk.

That is why your post is far fetched.

Yea you’re right, that’s fair. And I hope that is the case. I guess I’m looking at it that just eliminating BF doesn’t automatically make the offense good. KF needs to be open to a bit more adaptation offensively than he has previously.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

Listen to yourself.

You are saying the defensive coaches might leave because they are fed up with Brian being on the staff and things not improving, so the second that he has been publicly fired/executed, NOW they are going to take off en mass?

It would be far more logical that these coaches would be excited the program is getting rid of Brian and getting someone new and have what appears to be a re-invigorated Kirk.

That is why your post is far fetched.

I'm enjoying the butthurt that Kirk is causing. These poor guys.

 

[Geese]

I'm enjoying the butthurt that Kirk is causing. These poor guys.

AZ is enjoying it too. Usually he's the only one whose butt hurts.

 

[douglasbader]

Here is the list of defensive coaches at Iowa. Which ones are we thinking might get so angry and leave?

Phil Parker - DC / Secondary
Seth Wallace - Assistant DC / Linebackers
Kelvin Bell - DL Coach
Jay Niemann - Assistant DL Coach


That's the list. Lol thinking any of those guys are going to get PISSED and leave now.

 

[douglasbader]

I'm enjoying the butthurt that Kirk is causing. These poor guys.

Same.

I'm not under the delusion that Kirk is going to go out and hire some revolutionary young guy, but hiring Paul Chryst and letting him pick a new WR and OL coach? That is a pretty good last 3-5 years of Kirk plan.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

AZ is enjoying it too. Usually he's the only one whose butt hurts.

Literal LOL

 

[Talkin' Goat]

On the OC front, I think Paul Chryst is about the best case scenario for candidates that Kirk would allow. There are probably 50+ candidates that we all might like better, but I can’t imagine many (if any) of those that Kirk would truly be comfortable with. I think Chryst could actually be pretty damn good in that role too. He could just enjoy coaching and not have to deal with all the other BS that comes with being a head coach. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t nervous about it potentially being someone “worse” than Chryst though.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

It will be:
Someone with a proven track record/experience at a lower level
and,
Someone that you can trace ties back to KF in some way. (Ie worked for a guy who worked for a guy, etc)

 

[Creed]

On the OC front, I think Paul Chryst is about the best case scenario for candidates that Kirk would allow. There are probably 50+ candidates that we all might like better, but I can’t imagine many (if any) of those that Kirk would truly be comfortable with. I think Chryst could actually be pretty damn good in that role too. He could just enjoy coaching and not have to deal with all the other BS that comes with being a head coach. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t nervous about it potentially being someone “worse” than Chryst though.

Agreed. Would take Chryst in a heartbeat.

Budmayr lingering there for Kirk to choose is my big worry. A selection of him means it’s time to move on from Kirk and I’d prefer to get a few more years out of the old guy instead.

 

[gohawkeyes811]

Why would this be “hastily” figuring out next steps? Him leaving is inevitable. It can’t be put off indefinitely.

I'm not sure if you're serious given the current circumstances.

 

[The Dad]

Is Greg Davis still alive?

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Why don’t we want Budmayr? Legit asking.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Why would Copeland walk? His stock can’t be very high at this point and there certainly won’t be pressure for him to leave.

maybe he wants to work with fewer racists

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Why don’t we want Budmayr? Legit asking.

fruit of the poisonous route tree

 

[ivan_drago]

Why don’t we want Budmayr? Legit asking.

The prevailing wisdom is he was in charge of QBs at Wisconsin from 2018-2020 and Wisconsin’s quarterbacks sucked fucking cock during that span.

 

[nolookpass]

Why don’t we want Budmayr? Legit asking.

Lol.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

Why don’t we want Budmayr? Legit asking.

why do we want budmayr?

 

[AZmessDAWG]

fruit of the poisonous route tree

But he also was under Chryst too. Doesn’t it work the other way too?

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Yea you’re right, that’s fair. And I hope that is the case. I guess I’m looking at it that just eliminating BF doesn’t automatically make the offense good. KF needs to be open to a bit more adaptation offensively than he has previously.

the discrepancy between the scripted plays and rest of the game may be evidence that Brian is horrible.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

why do we want budmayr?

I don’t know. I just keep seeing hell no when his name is mentioned. I’m assuming it’s guilt by association.

 

[TurdBurgler]

Because budmayr is already tied to this abortion of an offense. What a stupid question.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Because budmayr is already tied to this abortion of an offense. What a stupid question.

Ok that’s fine but it’s not a totally stupid question.

I know as an assistant coach there a bunch of things I would do differently but still coach my ass off because that’s what you do.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

And before all you fucking mouth breathers apply your retarded logic, I’m not advocating for him. Im just asking why it’s an immediate no.

 

[cloudhawk]

Brian was undoubtedly coaching his ass off too...

 

[WCFHawkeye]

And before all you fucking mouth breathers apply your retarded logic, I’m not advocating for him. Im just asking why it’s an immediate no.

AZmessDAWG
Loved and Defended Budmayr Until the Bitter End

 

[AZmessDAWG]

I’m fully aware @The Full Monte is going to go apoplectic reading all that.

 

[SuperHans]

I'm not sure if you're serious given the current circumstances.

We have a new AD, who is interim in name only at this point. We have the necessary facilities. What makes this season any different? Are you looking for a farewell tour?

 

[CurdMan]

I wish we could all just accept two things and not bitch and moan:

1. BF sucks and was unfit to oversee the offense and was the worst OC KF has had
2. KF sucks at offense too and has never had an OC that we were happy with and he’s part of the problem

The offense should improve no matter who is in charge but it isn’t automatic that Iowa gets back to even GD or KOK results (which we all mocked) if KF can’t adapt. A lot has changed with the game of football and KF has to be open to change for this to work. I love that he’s coming back for one final go, but I’m not convinced he actually understands the need for real change, and doesn’t just think the lack of offensive success has been due to circumstances rather than scheme and system. We’ve got 25 years of evidence of how he runs offense. It will take me seeing him change to believe it.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

We have a new AD, who is interim in name only at this point. We have the necessary facilities. What makes this season any different? Are you looking for a farewell tour?

Looking for you to cry like a little bitch. It's working!

 

[StinkyMcFadden]

The prevailing wisdom is he was in charge of QBs at Wisconsin from 2018-2020 and Wisconsin’s quarterbacks sucked fucking cock during that span.

He was also called a gift from the heavens by KF and the offense and every thing about it has only sucked dick even more since he got here. He also brought the ThrowHardRetard from Wisconsin.

 

[gohawkeyes811]

We have a new AD, who is interim in name only at this point. We have the necessary facilities. What makes this season any different? Are you looking for a farewell tour?

Are you talking about firing Kirk?

 

[SuperHans]

Are you talking about firing Kirk?

Encouraging him to, in the words of his hero Chuck Noll, “get on with his life’s work” in the off-season.

 

[Saul Berkley]

Listen to yourself.

You are saying the defensive coaches might leave because they are fed up with Brian being on the staff and things not improving, so the second that he has been publicly fired/executed, NOW they are going to take off en mass?

It would be far more logical that these coaches would be excited the program is getting rid of Brian and getting someone new and have what appears to be a re-invigorated Kirk.

That is why your post is far fetched.

If they were going to leave because of offensive ineptitude (which as you say, is a valid theory), they would have done so by now.

 

[Hawkstrat]

Is there a chance Iowa fucks this up, sure. But when was the last time you had any reason for optimism regarding the offense?

 

[Hawk&Balls]

Is there a chance Iowa fucks this up, sure. But when was the last time you had any reason for optimism regarding the offense?

This past summer?

 

[StinkyMcFadden]

Also, @CurdMan , the reaction to Brian's firing was met with Halo like delight behind the scenes.

This makes my day. Thank you, Douglas.

 

[Hawkstrat]

Why don’t we want Budmayr? Legit asking.

I think it would signal that Kirk doesn't really see a problem with his offense. Maybe that isn't fair, but promoting from within seems like a less than great option.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Is there a chance Iowa fucks this up, sure. But when was the last time you had any reason for optimism regarding the offense?

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Brian was bad
Bud arrived
Brian was worse

 

[Hawkstrat]

This past summer?

Fair enough, but that died after the first two drives.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Fair enough, but that died after the first two drives.

I was overserved but I feel like we had a passing touchdown almost immediately.

 

[WCFHawkeye]

Those first two drives were pretty fun, though.

 

[StinkyMcFadden]

I was overserved but I feel like we had a passing touchdown almost immediately.

I think the DB fell down and Flipper's son scored right off the bat.

 

[TVan]

Question now is how much staff departure will there be? I wouldn’t be surprised to see Copeland walk and although he’s probably better than what Iowa has allowed him to show I’m fine with a fresh start there.

Defense is the real question. How many of these coaches became irreversibly pissed off that KF continued to let BF fuck around (and then wasn’t the one to actually step up and fire him)? My goal has always been to remove a bad staff member before it costs you good ones. KF has always had low staff turn over, but this off-season could be a real challenge

Let me get this straight. You think coaches will walk now that the cancer is gone? Not while he was on staff and turning out the worst numbers in the country? Sure stay for all that but now that there is the possibility of improvement, now is the time to walk? I don’t think this is sound thinking on your part.

 

[MikeyJoe]

Why don’t we want Budmayr? Legit asking.

We hates him!

 

[douglasbader]

Let me get this straight. You think coaches will walk now that the cancer is gone? Not while he was on staff and turning out the worst numbers in the country? Sure stay for all that but now that there is the possibility of improvement, now is the time to walk? I don’t think this is sound thinking on your part.

In fairness to @CurdMan he already backtracked on it. There just aren't that many defensive coaches and all of of them are extremely loyal to Kirk.

Phil Parker and Jay Niemann are too old to want to go anywhere from what it sounds like. Kelvin Bell loves it here and Seth Wallace also loves it here but he might be ready to get an P5 DC job.

 

[douglasbader]

We hates him!