**Northwestern vs Iowa Basketball, 2-19-23-5:30 PM BTN**

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He does have physical limitations, most notably being very weak. He also has some attributes, most notably very good length. He doesn’t have to be as horrible as he is on that end, unless we are viewing personality/mentality as an immutable trait.
 
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Yep hips, ass, quads, whatever you want to call it, it’s all about that mid-section, fellas. Don’t ever let your kids forget that that’s how you maintain position on a basketball court. As long as they don’t have a teenage thyroid cancer diagnosis thwarting this development, they’ll have what it takes to play good d.

I know this truth isn’t as fun as going on to social media to get all ragey about effort, but nonetheless a truth it is.
 
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Fritz Fequiere said:
Yep hips, ass, quads, whatever you want to call it, it’s all about that mid-section, fellas. Don’t ever let your kids forget that that’s how you maintain position on a basketball court. As long as they don’t have a teenage thyroid cancer diagnosis thwarting this development, they’ll have what it takes to play good d.

I know this truth isn’t as fun as going on to social media to get all ragey about effort, but nonetheless a truth it is.
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this is why your kid should start dead lifting a broom at 5 years old
 
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Fritz Fequiere said:
Yep hips, ass, quads, whatever you want to call it, it’s all about that mid-section, fellas. Don’t ever let your kids forget that that’s how you maintain position on a basketball court. As long as they don’t have a teenage thyroid cancer diagnosis thwarting this development, they’ll have what it takes to play good d.

I know this truth isn’t as fun as going on to social media to get all ragey about effort, but nonetheless a truth it is.
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Pretty big correlation of "hip" development in pediatric thyroid cancer patients, Doc?

It's OK to admit you are talking out of your ass. This is halo. People admit it all the time.
 
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Fritz Fequiere said:
Yep hips, ass, quads, whatever you want to call it, it’s all about that mid-section, fellas. Don’t ever let your kids forget that that’s how you maintain position on a basketball court. As long as they don’t have a teenage thyroid cancer diagnosis thwarting this development, they’ll have what it takes to play good d.

I know this truth isn’t as fun as going on to social media to get all ragey about effort, but nonetheless a truth it is.
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when it comes to defense, Pat has a debilitating combination of physical and mental makeup. it’s not all or nothing in either direction
 
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FrodoTBaggin said:
Pretty big correlation of "hip" development in pediatric thyroid cancer patients, Doc?

It's OK to admit you are talking out of your ass. This is halo. People admit it all the time.
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I know you’re not what some might call a “thinker”, but look at his brother and his parents. You really think he’d still look the way he does if not for his illness? I don’t think even halo can be that groupthink stupid.
 
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I know you’re not what some might call a “thinker”, but look at his brother and his parents. You really think he’d still look the way he does if not for his illness? I don’t think even halo can be that groupthink stupid.
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Even if your assertion is correct (it certainly seems made up), shouldn't this only matter a fraction when assessing his defense? He's not good at closing out, frequently in the wrong position, etc. That doesn't have much to do with establishing a wide base.

And, if it is 100% his hips, this is Big Ten Basketball. His offense certainly does not outweigh his poor defense, and unfortunately he shouldn't get as much playing time if that's the case. LOL that you think people are making fun of Patrick due to physical limitations from his cancer. Come on dude.
 
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the width or narrowness of a player's hip bones has little, if anything, to do with how he can set his feet and maintain position.

that's going to be gluteal and core strength, the adductors, and abductors.

pat's a shitty defender because he has shitty technique. he may also be weak from the mid-thigh to the waist (basically everything you strengthen with a dead lift -- he's had a few years to work on his strength...but this is Iowa Basketball, after all...).

but mostly because he is really shitty at zone and man.

michael cooper was a fucking twig...and bird said he was the toughest defender he faced

 
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pat just needs to watch this. surely, this will work.

 
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Fritz Fequiere said:
I know you’re not what some might call a “thinker”, but look at his brother and his parents. You really think he’d still look the way he does if not for his illness? I don’t think even halo can be that groupthink stupid.
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You're completely talking out of your ass. You have zero clue what you're talking about. You're making shit up. Post some sort of evidence that his thyroid cancer led to his "stunted hip development". Any sort of article will do even if there is a marginal relation or possibility.

Why would the thyroid cancer target his hips but not his long ass arms? Or allow him to grow to 6'8"?

Gotta watch out for that thyroid cancer - really targets your hips and core. Permanently affects your ability to get in a stance.

You are a stupid person making things up to try to sound smart. You're not.
 
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Somebody in IC please get me a close-up of Patrick in jeans. This will end all debate.
 
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Guys, on the one hand I get it, this is halo, so we’re going to see some guys falling all over themselves looking for internet friends. So you’ll see weird consensus views. It’s fine. People are lonely these days it seems.

But on other hand I find it pretty shocking and maybe even a little scary to find Iowa basketball fans who don’t think Patrick’s illness at 15 influenced his physique. Again, look at his family. Look at his ass! There’s nothing there!

This is the danger of groupthink. I’ve warned of this before, you guys. Stop it.

The only way I can make sense of it is that there’s just so much more social media fun in making it about personal agency and inflicting pain.
 
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Patricks narrow hips are not caused by thyroid cancer. It’s caused by bullshit from upstream flowing into his mind.
 
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Fritz Fequiere said:
Guys, on the one hand I get it, this is halo, so we’re going to see some guys falling all over themselves looking for internet friends. So you’ll see weird consensus views. It’s fine. People are lonely these days it seems.

But on other hand I find it pretty shocking and maybe even a little scary to find Iowa basketball fans who don’t think Patrick’s illness at 15 influenced his physique. Again, look at his family. Look at his ass! There’s nothing there!

This is the danger of groupthink. I’ve warned of this before, you guys. Stop it.

The only way I can make sense of it is that there’s just so much more social media fun in making it about personal agency and inflicting pain.
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99.999% of the human population has uncontrollable physical factors that prevent them from playing big 10 basketball.
 
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Fritz Fequiere said:
Guys, on the one hand I get it, this is halo, so we’re going to see some guys falling all over themselves looking for internet friends. So you’ll see weird consensus views. It’s fine. People are lonely these days it seems.

But on other hand I find it pretty shocking and maybe even a little scary to find Iowa basketball fans who don’t think Patrick’s illness at 15 influenced his physique. Again, look at his family. Look at his ass! There’s nothing there!

This is the danger of groupthink. I’ve warned of this before, you guys. Stop it.

The only way I can make sense of it is that there’s just so much more social media fun in making it about personal agency and inflicting pain.
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Groupthink escape hatch! You're just a dumb guy (who thinks he's super smart) with a sprinkle of dishonesty, doc. It's OK. Its been well established.
 
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Fritz Fequiere said:
Guys, on the one hand I get it, this is halo, so we’re going to see some guys falling all over themselves looking for internet friends. So you’ll see weird consensus views. It’s fine. People are lonely these days it seems.

But on other hand I find it pretty shocking and maybe even a little scary to find Iowa basketball fans who don’t think Patrick’s illness at 15 influenced his physique. Again, look at his family. Look at his ass! There’s nothing there!

This is the danger of groupthink. I’ve warned of this before, you guys. Stop it.

The only way I can make sense of it is that there’s just so much more social media fun in making it about personal agency and inflicting pain.
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Most HALO member are cyber bullies who have never been in a room with a woman much less fucked one. And couldn't figure out how to use their own equipment to fuck themselves. So they come here to take out their aggression on cancer survivors and student athletes who would kick their asses in real life.
 
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CleteyColgate said:
Most HALO member are cyber bullies who have never been in a room with a woman much less fucked one. And couldn't figure out how to use their own equipment to fuck themselves. So they come here to take out their aggression on cancer survivors and student athletes who would kick their asses in real life.
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Pat's hips are much too thin to take a proper fighting stance.
 
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Fritz Fequiere said:
Guys, on the one hand I get it, this is halo, so we’re going to see some guys falling all over themselves looking for internet friends. So you’ll see weird consensus views. It’s fine. People are lonely these days it seems.

But on other hand I find it pretty shocking and maybe even a little scary to find Iowa basketball fans who don’t think Patrick’s illness at 15 influenced his physique. Again, look at his family. Look at his ass! There’s nothing there!

This is the danger of groupthink. I’ve warned of this before, you guys. Stop it.

The only way I can make sense of it is that there’s just so much more social media fun in making it about personal agency and inflicting pain.
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Take the L and move on.
 
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you sucked at providence!!
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Kenos
ken-os'
Adjective
NAS Word Usage - Total: 18
  1. empty, vain, devoid of truth
    1. of places, vessels, etc. which contain nothing
    2. of men
      1. empty handed
      2. without a gift
    3. metaph. destitute of spiritual wealth, of one who boasts of his faith as a transcendent possession, yet is without the fruits of faith
    4. metaph. of endeavours, labours, acts, which result in nothing, vain, fruitless, without effect
      1. vain of no purpose


I am empty, vain, devoid of truth, and I am not that fucking fuck fuck son of the winningest coach in Iowa history that I will forever love, despite his many flaws.
 
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