**Official 2020 Iowa Hawkeye Football Offseason Thread**

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The situation with Wadley is the reason the other players going to Twitter instead of directly to KF was ultimately the wrong decision.

Everything Wadley has posted is more sour grapes than anything race related. Especially considering Robert Green saying yesterday that Wadleys goal is still the NFL and he believes Iowa isn’t allowing that to happen. This comes after Wadley says he wouldn’t encourage any high school players to come here and Green sent that info to recruits.

Daniels, Lomax, Johnson etc. all wanted a cultural change, which is now being overshadowed by whatever it is that Wadley wants to anyone who follows Rob Howe.
 

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The situation with Wadley is the reason the other players going to Twitter instead of directly to KF was ultimately the wrong decision.

Everything Wadley has posted is more sour grapes than anything race related. Especially considering Robert Green saying yesterday that Wadleys goal is still the NFL and he believes Iowa isn’t allowing that to happen. This comes after Wadley says he wouldn’t encourage any high school players to come here and Green sent that info to recruits.

Daniels, Lomax, Johnson etc. all wanted a cultural change, which is now being overshadowed by whatever it is that Wadley wants to anyone who follows Rob Howe.
Yep. I don’t doubt the cultural change needed to happen, but what Wadley is doing now is just shitty and made possible by having it all out in public.
 

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The situation with Wadley is the reason the other players going to Twitter instead of directly to KF was ultimately the wrong decision.

Everything Wadley has posted is more sour grapes than anything race related. Especially considering Robert Green saying yesterday that Wadleys goal is still the NFL and he believes Iowa isn’t allowing that to happen. This comes after Wadley says he wouldn’t encourage any high school players to come here and Green sent that info to recruits.

Daniels, Lomax, Johnson etc. all wanted a cultural change, which is now being overshadowed by whatever it is that Wadley wants to anyone who follows Rob Howe.
Fuck James Daniels.
 

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I looked at HawkeyeNation, what a fucking terrible website by the way, and from the post Rob made today he truly believes this is his Penn State and he alone will out the Iowa program. He thinks anyone that speaks out even a little against any player is "trying to defend the program at all costs" and the pattern is the same as something like Penn State. He also thinks he is reporting both sides.

Explains everything of why he is acting the way he is acting. He was diddled as a kid by his uncle and when Penn State happened it hit close to home for him and he obviously sees this as his mission in life.
A reporter for a nothing PA paper won a fucking Pulitzer for her Penn State work, but she did the work. She worked sources, dug, and reported the story.

Howe is a retweet machine who takes statements he had no part of and pretends copy and pasting them is reporting work.
 

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At what point will these players realize that if you are good enough to play in the NFL, you will play in the NFL. They have no moral compass if you are talented. If you are borderline, it's likely not worth it and there are 79465746 other guys to choose from.
 
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A reporter for a nothing PA paper won a fucking Pulitzer for her Penn State work, but she did the work. She worked sources, dug, and reported the story.

Howe is a retweet machine who takes statements he had no part of and pretends copy and pasting them is reporting work.
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Poor Maurice was mentally and physically exhausted from having to attend class, get decent grades, lift weights/work out, eat/drink to maintain weight, and be accountable to his team. I feel so bad for him. I might just shed a tear or two.
 

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Is there a point where facts start coming in to play? Is that what this investigation by the law firm is going to bring out? Or are they just going to give some 40,000 foot view of the culture?

Surely you can defend against canceling meal plans and other factual things, right? Or is the university going to take an approach of letting it die out?
 

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Is there a point where facts start coming in to play? Is that what this investigation by the law firm is going to bring out? Or are they just going to give some 40,000 foot view of the culture?

Surely you can defend against canceling meal plans and other factual things, right? Or is the university going to take an approach of letting it die out?
Iowa is in a no win situation here. The players and their family and this shady guy can put stuff out every single day from a different player (and it looks like that is exactly their plan) and if Iowa responds it just keeps the news cycle going. If they try to do anything to really respond then the players or Rob Howe or others can scream that Iowa is trying to silence "victims".

The only real option here is to take their lumps.
 

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Iowa shouldn't respond to these people at all, ever. They have a plan in place to correct things that are wrong within the program. Anyone serious can look at what Fleming has said and say, "The dreads stuff is fucking ridiculous, his complaints about the other stuff is too...for him to complain."
 

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As I said before, why the fuck does Iowa get all these bitch ass black athletes? Grow some fucking nuts fucking pussies.
 

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Iowa is in a no win situation here. The players and their family and this shady guy can put stuff out every single day from a different player (and it looks like that is exactly their plan) and if Iowa responds it just keeps the news cycle going. If they try to do anything to really respond then the players or Rob Howe or others can scream that Iowa is trying to silence "victims".

The only real option here is to take their lumps.
The thing is they already have a decent recruiting class, fired Doyle and have an outside investigation. They don’t really need this to go away, as long as these are the worst kinds of stories. Eventually they will run out if steam.
 

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As I said before, why the fuck does Iowa get all these bitch ass black athletes? Grow some fucking nuts fucking pussies.
The exact reason is that it's not some rogue program where athletes are allowed to do whatever the F they want without consequences just because they're good at football.

It's a shock to their system and is contrary to their entire existence.
 

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Iowa recruits too many white guys.

Iowa recruits too many black guys that watch anime.

Both true.
 
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It was 100% a coached statement written by an attorney. He mentions his mental health suffering due to disparate treatment, and then hits the PTSD item at the end.
Yep.

Just setting up the class action lawsuit.
 

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Iowa is in a no win situation here. The players and their family and this shady guy can put stuff out every single day from a different player (and it looks like that is exactly their plan) and if Iowa responds it just keeps the news cycle going. If they try to do anything to really respond then the players or Rob Howe or others can scream that Iowa is trying to silence "victims".

The only real option here is to take their lumps.
that’s why it would be nice if some journalist did their actual fucking job and looked into the background of this guys supposed support group.
 

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I assume Jayden McDonalds statement is next unless his lawyer explained to them that the window has closed because they waited too long.
 

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If you're going to file a class action lawsuit, isn't it kinda dumb to put all of your allegations out there for the other side to see before it starts?
 

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This Green guy’s Twitter is hilarious. He posts constantly with zero interaction and maybe gets one like
 

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Wasn’t there also a rumor out there that wadley was accused of some bad behavior around the draft? Was that bullshit?

he better hope so, or it’s all gonna come out.
 

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Didn’t Fleming go to the coaches and demand a starting spot after 2015? They told him both starting corners were returning but there was an open spot at safety. He competed that spring and lost out on the job to Snyder and grad transferred.
 

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Rob thinks he's a journalist?

Fucking hell. Even Coff isn't that delusional.
 

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Didn’t Fleming go to the coaches and demand a starting spot after 2015? They told him both starting corners were returning but there was an open spot at safety. He competed that spring and lost out on the job to Snyder and grad transferred.
Lol, they wouldn’t let me transfer!!!! Transfers. It isn’t Kirks fault that the kid was nothing more than a decent college player.
 

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Lol, they wouldn’t let me transfer!!!! Transfers. It isn’t Kirks fault that the kid was nothing more than a decent college player.
That's the problem though. They come here having heard what Iowa does with 2* recruits and thinks they're the next one. When the next one is Desmond King or Michael Ojemudia and not them they don't understand why they didn't make it. They all thought they would make it to the NFL because that's what they're told in recruiting. When it doesn't work out they need someone to blame. Now that Doyles gone they're moving off the race stuff into bullying.
 
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