**Official 2022 Iowa Football Season Thread**

[KitKatApples]

Different

 

[kmurp]

Two strong traditions on display here:

1. Iowa DB getting a turnover
2. Terrible mid 90s music on the Kinnick speakers.

Nice play by the young guy. That QB sure stared the receiver down.

 

[HerkyHopeful]

There was a lot of backstreet boys on the playlist. I don't believe my kids or any other kids there knew those songs

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

Not ranked. No biggie.

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

 

[Dr. Zaius]

The playlist Saturday was awful and it’s the same one they have used since 2010

It was for the kids

 

[Hawk24]

Click to see the whole thread. Maybe some reason for guarded optimism?

 

[Dr. Zaius]

We goin’ to da ‘ship

 

[AZmessDAWG]

We goin’ to da ‘ship

Knock it off

 

[Dr. Zaius]

 

[KitKatApples]

 

[RecreationalGynecologist]

 

[Monster]

Oh no.

 

[MikeyJoe]

@AZmess and I believe he's going to shock the world this season.

 

[Brownzy]

I hope that man has a wonderful season.

 

[Kamala]

I hope that man has a wonderful season.

I also hope he quarterbacks the Iowa Hawkeyes at an All-American level

 

[nikolausp]

"The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way."

-Spencer Petras

(and Marcus Aurelius)

 

[L. Wade Childress]

@AZmess and I believe he's going to shock the world this season.

So what’s the pink and what’s the stink

 

[Geese]

"The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way."

-Spencer Petras

(and Marcus Aurelius)

-Michael Scott

 

[MikeyJoe]

Everyone can laugh now, but when Spencer comes out week 1 and dovetail snaps into a drag left 5 level fade, who's going to be laughing then?!

 

[CurdMan]

Petras has incredible arm talent. Hopefully all the talk about simplifying the offense pays off for him

 

[Hawkstrat]

 

[Stu Beagle]

If he stays healthy, I think he plays well enough to start the entire season. Though I think his ceiling is still mid of the pack douche

 

[douglasbader]

@AZmess and I believe he's going to shock the world this season.

Oh, I have no doubt he will give the entire Iowa program and fanbase a giant shocker.

 

[Monster]

Petras has incredible arm talent. Hopefully all the talk about simplifying the offense pays off for him

He did break Jared Goff's records.

 

[Shawneemicks]

26 more starts

 

[cloudhawk]

If he stays healthy, I think he plays well enough to start the entire season. Though I think his ceiling is still mid of the pack douche

I'll take it

 

[hawkeyealum]

I believe that video may have included all his highlight throws.

 

[Debit One]

I am very enthused about the Aaron Graves developments.

Very enthused.

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

26 more starts

30*

 

[Fair and Balanced]

@AZmess and I believe he's going to shock the world this season.

He’s a leader of men.

 

[BngHawk]

Petras is going to put up absolutely crazy numbers this year. No more doubting. We’ve got our King.

 

[BBK]

If he stays healthy, I think he plays well enough to start the entire season. Though I think his ceiling is still mid of the pack douche

If he's an average QB in the I am a giant douche (talking 7th in QBR) we will fly.

I haven't witnessed a single thing suggesting that might happen, however

 

[BBK]

And there have been some super abysmal quarterbacks in the league the last couple years. People we've all clowned.

Spencer was worse than them

 

[nikolausp]

If he's an average QB in the I am a giant douche (talking 7th in QBR) we will fly.

I haven't witnessed a single thing suggesting that might happen, however

I'm sure Spencer gained a ton of speed in his feet at least, being trained this offseason by Footballs' versions of Usain Bolt, Peyton & Eli.

 

[BBK]

Yeah, we've heard about how much better Spencer is every year going into the season. It's never showed up on the field.

Only excuses. Poor reaction time. Difficulty handling pressure. Then sad interviews about how his mom reads social media.

If he's the same ol Spencer I hope the boo birds sing loud and proud at Kinnick. If he's somehow great, I will be happy to give credit where credit is due.

 

[kmurp]

If he's an average QB in the I am a giant douche (talking 7th in QBR) we will fly.

I haven't witnessed a single thing suggesting that might happen, however

Average in the Bigten at QB isn’t actually very good at all.

 

[RazHawk]

Yeah, we've heard about how much better Spencer is every year going into the season. It's never showed up on the field.

Only excuses. Poor reaction time. Difficulty handling pressure. Then sad interviews about how his mom reads social media.

If he's the same ol Spencer I hope the boo birds sing loud and proud at Kinnick. If he's somehow great, I will be happy to give credit where credit is due.

This is why I have almost no hope.

I recently forced myself to listen to the Kirk’s son, Brian Ferentz podcast with Leistikow and it really reinforced my prior bias that Kirk’s son, Brian Ferentz overcomplicates a college offense and he's trying to make college players work an NFL scheme that they aren't able to run. I think that's the entire problem with the Iowa passing game, he doesn't have NFL QBs, but he's asking his QB's to make decisions like an NFL QB to have success. The entire problem can be summed up in his QB conversation that starts around the 49 minute mark and is interesting through like 75 minutes, the money quote for me from Brian was at 1 hour 12 minutes (in reference to QBs):

"...I think the hardest thing is like a lot of times you'll go out and hit a completion, but somebody else was wide open somewhere else and most of the time that happens, there's one or two reasons, one the QBs eyes were in the wrong spot, he threw to the wrong person who shouldn't have been open, but somehow was or he forced the ball in there and bad things happen, or two, the guy he didn't throw to who seems to be wide open that everybody in the 5th row 20 Busch Lights deep sees and he doesn't know what's wrong the QB or play caller, the QB was never going to look at that guy. Never. Because defensively, structurally, he should be covered, but they made a mistake. We can't count on bad defense. We have to count on them doing what they're supposed to do, because that's going to yield those results, which is going to lead to increasing that completion percentage. Hope is not a method, not a strategy...."

I'm not a football coach, so I could be completely wrong here, but in college football, it seems to me that most great college QBs are great because they exploit bad defenses by improvising and extending plays, or sticking to matchup advantages they have rather than pre-snap decisions. This is college football, not the NFL, the defenses WILL make mistakes, basing your entire passing offense around the idea they won't seems to be a bad strategy to me. When you have George Kittle on your team, telling your QB not to throw to him because your pre-snap read tells you he probably won't be open is dumb.

The entire Iowa offense needs to be simplified IMO - do a few things really well, starting with the running game, and use a basic play action passing attack that compliments the run and integrates two TE's on most offensive sets and gives the QB the ability to exploit defenses that make mistakes, taking deep shots to keep the defense honest. Focus on funneling the ball to your offensive talent (this year, Keagan Johnson/Sam La Porta especially) and stop trying to ask college QBs to play the game like they're in the NFL.

 

[Debit One]

I'm not a football coach, so I could be completely wrong here, but in college football, it seems to me that most great college QBs are great because they exploit bad defenses by improvising and extending plays, or sticking to matchup advantages they have rather than pre-snap decisions. This is college football, not the NFL, the defenses WILL make mistakes, basing your entire passing offense around the idea they won't seems to be a bad strategy to me. When you have George Kittle on your team, telling your QB not to throw to him because your pre-snap read tells you he probably won't be open is dumb.

A mistake that most fans make is in believing that a QB can or should survey all options before making a throw. There just isn't time for that.

For a certain combination of route and defense there will be primary options. If one of those primary options is open you go with it rather than assessing the other 2 - 3 options that are lower on the priority list.

This is why you will occasionally see a WR running absolutely free and the QB not seeing it. If their first or second look is there they are going to take it rather than looking at options 3, 4, and 5 before deciding.

I think that is what B. Ferentz means when he says that someone shouldn't have been open.

 

[brantshawks]

He will be as good as the oline will allow him to be. That's the best we can hope for.

 

[CamelTones]

This is why I have almost no hope.

I recently forced myself to listen to the Kirk’s son, Brian Ferentz podcast with Leistikow and it really reinforced my prior bias that Kirk’s son, Brian Ferentz overcomplicates a college offense and he's trying to make college players work an NFL scheme that they aren't able to run. I think that's the entire problem with the Iowa passing game, he doesn't have NFL QBs, but he's asking his QB's to make decisions like an NFL QB to have success. The entire problem can be summed up in his QB conversation that starts around the 49 minute mark and is interesting through like 75 minutes, the money quote for me from Brian was at 1 hour 12 minutes (in reference to QBs):



I'm not a football coach, so I could be completely wrong here, but in college football, it seems to me that most great college QBs are great because they exploit bad defenses by improvising and extending plays, or sticking to matchup advantages they have rather than pre-snap decisions. This is college football, not the NFL, the defenses WILL make mistakes, basing your entire passing offense around the idea they won't seems to be a bad strategy to me. When you have George Kittle on your team, telling your QB not to throw to him because your pre-snap read tells you he probably won't be open is dumb.

The entire Iowa offense needs to be simplified IMO - do a few things really well, starting with the running game, and use a basic play action passing attack that compliments the run and integrates two TE's on most offensive sets and gives the QB the ability to exploit defenses that make mistakes, taking deep shots to keep the defense honest. Focus on funneling the ball to your offensive talent (this year, Keagan Johnson/Sam La Porta especially) and stop trying to ask college QBs to play the game like they're in the NFL.

You said Brian over complicates the offense then you over complicated a quote.

 

[ddevries]

Part of the Iowa defensive success for years is that it forces the QB to take what’s in front of them and not go for the big play. But then we’re mad BF suggests Petras should just take what the defense makes available. Ok then.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

If he's an average QB in the I am a giant douche (talking 7th in QBR) we will fly.

I haven't witnessed a single thing suggesting that might happen, however

Well you aren’t at practice, mister.

 

[douglasbader]

Part of the Iowa defensive success for years is that it forces the QB to take what’s in front of them and not go for the big play. But then we’re mad BF suggests Petras should just take what the defense makes available. Ok then.

This, of all things, is the most maddening thing about the Iowa football offense. You have an incredible defense that is built on the principle that nearly all college QB's and offenses aren't good enough to put together 10+ play drives without making a mistake. Keep them in front of you, force them to march down the field and tighten up when you get inside the red zone. They know that modern college football relies on explosive plays and sets out to never give them up. It works. Phil Parker is (mostly) a genius. This is why Iowa usually leads or is near the top of the country in interceptions.

Yet knowing all of this and practicing against it every single fucking day, the Iowa offense chooses to run a system that thinks it will be smart enough to run 10+ play drives without making any mistakes. They don't realize the entire nature of the game is explosive plays and scoring easily by stretching the field and taking shots. 95% of defenses aren't built like Iowa's defense and most will give up big plays if you just dare to take the required amount of shots down the field.

Nope. Brian would rather run 17 mother fucking zone stretch runs to the short side and pass plays that still stink of Greg Davis. Oh, and speaking of zone running scheme, it's been nearly impossible to run effectively for like 5+ years now due to rule changes. It also doesn't help that the other teams have figured out how to blow it up by immediately shooting into those gaps and Iowa (Brian) refuses to run enough counters or plays that punish the defense for doing this.

 

[BngHawk]

Petras is going to put up absolutely crazy numbers this year. No more doubting. We’ve got our King.

Lol JK.

 

[BngHawk]

Yeah, we've heard about how much better Spencer is every year going into the season. It's never showed up on the field.

Only excuses. Poor reaction time. Difficulty handling pressure. Then sad interviews about how his mom reads social media.

If he's the same ol Spencer I hope the boo birds sing loud and proud at Kinnick. If he's somehow great, I will be happy to give credit where credit is due.

He’s going to be mediocre at best.

 

[douglasbader]

Let's not even talk about when Iowa QB's come to the line and scan the defense and start pointing and call an audible. The defense immediately starts gesturing to each other at the short side of the field and nearly every living soul in Kinnick Stadium and on Halo chat can tell you it's a short side zone run.

 

[StinkyMcFadden]

Did Alec Wick do anything in the open practice?

 

[douglasbader]

For the one billionth time, if you are running a college football offense in the year 2022 and you aren't taking at least 10 shots per game down the field, you are a certified fucking moron. The outcome is going to be A) a long completion explosive play or B) a long incompletion that loosens up the defense from putting 8-9 in the box and makes it easier to run or C) a pass interference because college DB's and refs are stupid or d) at worst a long interception that acts as a 40-50 yard punt.

Iowa's running game has sucked because the stupid Offensive Coordinator has refused to help it out.

 

[Stu Beagle]

Average in the Bigten at QB isn’t actually very good at all.

But better than we have been