**Official Iowa State vs. Iowa Football Thread - 6:30pm - NBC**

[douglasbader]

Ugly win, but I'm happy. Had a good night. I made homemade meatballs for meatball sammiches, @jandj came over and flirted with Mrs Hamo, just had cookies for dessert. Life is good.

Sounds like he had cookies for dessert as well.

 

[Hawkstrat]

Also, Lutmer was a turd today.

 

[douglasbader]

I'm not reading all of this thread, but Diaz gets open and when teams dare Iowa to throw deep, they should probably throw deep.

Too risky!!!!!!

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

Am I crazy? They took multiple shots. Brown just didn't make good throws.

 

[douglasbader]

The poor Iowa defense. They gave up 250 yards and 13 points and we are ready to murder them and declare they are terrible. 95% of other programs would be THRILLED with that.

 

[douglasbader]

Am I crazy? They took multiple shots. Brown just didn't make good throws.

They did, but still not nearly enough and not at the right times.

 

[Malickfan]

I'm not reading all of this thread, but Diaz gets open and when teams dare Iowa to throw deep, they should probably throw deep.

Probably.

 

[LarBar]

Hinkel and Razor Ramon: our most underrated ever WR duo

Two absolute reliable studs.

 

[Karl Hungus]

Probably.

Too risky.

 

[CamelTones]

I'm not reading all of this thread, but Diaz gets open and when teams dare Iowa to throw deep, they should probably throw deep.

This is the part that didn’t make sense to me. Brown wasn’t under much pressure most of the night. He got hit a few times but that happens. Iowa State continued covering him with 1 guy. He should have had 5 or 6 deep shots in the second half alone.

But none of that was going to happen once Iowa gained control of the field position game.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

They did, but still not nearly enough and not at the right times.

The first down play calls were bad. I think they threw at least 5 or 6 long throws - more than they have in years. Connected on a couple and multiple were bad throws with a couple questionable PI. I agree though, throw 10.

 

[gohawkeyes811]

I don't care how it happened. Just happy to have that fucking game in the rearview mirror with a W.

Also watching with my kids who don't understand the annoyance of this fucking game helps because they were just going nuts with the made FG.

The 3 game opening Big Ten stretch is a million times better with this game being a win.

 

[Malickfan]

Too risky.

That 2004 season must have driven Ferentz crazy.

 

[BBK]

Ugly win, but I'm happy. Had a good night. I made homemade meatballs for meatball sammiches, @jandj came over and flirted with Mrs Hamo, just had cookies for dessert. Life is good.

Good brews. Good tunes. Good buds

 

[gohawkeyes811]

If they are going to stick with Hank, Lester has to let him air out it and understand he's not running the ball like Gronowski. Those QB runs were awful.

 

[Hawkmi]

Game gave me 2009 UNI vibes. We're running the table from here boys.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

If they are going to stick with Hank, Lester has to let him air out it and understand he's not running the ball like Gronowski. Those QB runs were awful.

They have to be willing to throw an interception every now and then.

 

[jandj]

Ugly win, but I'm happy. Had a good night. I made homemade meatballs for meatball sammiches, @jandj came over and flirted with Mrs Hamo, just had cookies for dessert. Life is good.

Wtf?? You wait til I leave to break out the cookies?? I do like Monster balls better than Schweddy balls.

 

[Pinehawk]

The positive take away from this game is that Tony Diaz is the real deal.
That guy can play. Huge addition.

 

[gohawkeyes811]

They have to be willing to throw an interception every now and then.

Also, especially for a team like Iowa, if it is 3rd and 10 or more, throw a fucking deep ball. It either serves as a punt if picked, or you get a huge play. It helps you zero to get 5 yards.

 

[douglasbader]

I don't care how it happened. Just happy to have that fucking game in the rearview mirror with a W.

Also watching with my kids who don't understand the annoyance of this fucking game helps because they were just going nuts with the made FG.

The 3 game opening Big Ten stretch is a million times better with this game being a win.

The big thank you we owe Campbell and Iowa State is that no matter what we think or how annoying this game is to us, nationally it is seen as a tough rivalry game. The score is thrown out for this one. Winning is all that matters, Iowa is not going to be be punished for only winning by a field goal.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

The big thank you we owe Campbell and Iowa State is that no matter what we think or how annoying this game is to us, nationally it is seen as a tough rivalry game. The score is thrown out for this one. Winning is all that matters, Iowa is not going to be be punished for only winning by a field goal.

Those homos aren't near as bad as i was hoping. That dude is a good coach it appears.

 

[cloudhawk]

The first down play calls were bad. I think they threw at least 5 or 6 long throws - more than they have in years. Connected on a couple and multiple were bad throws with a couple questionable PI. I agree though, throw 10.

All of them don't necessarily have to be to Diaz, I like it, but they've gone away from using the TE down the seams like the past....do more of both.

 

[douglasbader]

Those homos aren't near as bad as i was hoping. That dude is a good coach it appears.

Jimmy plays Ferentz-ball. Makes the game a muddy dog fight. Dares you to beat him doing what you don't like doing.

Last year at Washington State they gave a Top 5 team a hell of a game (Ole Miss 24-20) on the road and nearly beat a ranked Virginia team (22-20) on the road. Nearly beat CFP team James Madison (24-20) as well.

 

[Lil Scamp]

We never got on solid footing

Iowa State emptied the tank

2-0

 

[Hawkstrat]

Hopefully his tenure at Iowa State is highlighted by almost wins.

 

[champion_thedrinker]

Iowa with mobile quarterbacks, heavy sets with extra o lineman and Phil Parker's defense would be amazing.

 

[cloudhawk]

Yes, 2002 was awesome

 

[L. Wade Childress]

I’ve seen a few comments from ISU fans about jimmy turtling, but that’s 100% the right call when playing Kurt

 

[douglasbader]

Whew. It's awesome to win that game vs. losing it. Especially looking around the Big Ten after the 2nd full weekend. It's wide open, and Iowa will most likely get a lot better as the year goes on.

There isn't a truly scary team in the entire league. All of them have flaws, and the one that likely is the scariest you get at home.

 

[CamelTones]

Iowa State doesn’t really have a QB so they’re forced to play a game where they have 7 offensive lineman on the field. They had maybe 1 completion where their guy was open. Another where their guy dropped it/was a bad throw. Everything else was contested.

Are they good? Not really, and they’re fucked in any game they get behind a couple scores. But they have a great kicker and won’t turn the ball over much. I can’t imagine that’s how their offense is going to look long term.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

All of them don't necessarily have to be to Diaz, I like it, but they've gone away from using the TE down the seams like the past....do more of both.

I don't remember much over the middle of the field. They're scared to throw over the middle.

 

[douglasbader]

I’ve seen a few comments from ISU fans about jimmy turtling, but that’s 100% the right call when playing Kurt

The weird dumb thing he did was at the end of the first half he didn't call a timeout and force Iowa to kick that FG with like a minute left. He made it, but with their kicker all they have to do is get to midfield and they have a shot to get points.

You could tell from that alone that Jimmy has a lot of Kirk in him.

 

[Turdz]

The Cougs got beat by UW 59-24 last year. Same dynamic as Iowa State Iowa. Let's not suck Jimmy's dick yet.

 

[nolookpass]

Lol channel 8 having Caitlin Clark's brother on the pre and post game show. I think Caitlin took the same number of snaps that he did.

 

[Monster]

I wonder if dirty play will be a hallmark of the Jimmy Rogers ISU tenure. They did some shitty....um, shit out there.

 

[douglasbader]

I don't remember much over the middle of the field. They're scared to throw over the middle.

They clearly don't trust Hank yet (nor should they) and don't put him in many throws that require much more than looking at his first option and hoping it is there. Throwing over the middle requires a lot more processing the defense and seeing the field to make sure you aren't forgetting about a LB or Safety that is just standing there waiting to pick it off.

My guess as we go later in the year and if he proves himself, they will throw over the middle a lot more.

 

[Pinehawk]

That long pass to Diaz in the 1st quarter, down 10-0…was huge. We don’t respond there, and the game could have gotten away from us.

 

[douglasbader]

The Cougs got beat by UW 59-24 last year. Same dynamic as Iowa State Iowa. Let's not suck Jimmy's dick yet.

That was the 4th game of the year and first against a Power 4 team. They never lost by more than 4 after that, including the 2 CFP teams and ranked Virginia all on the road. That's pretty fucking good.

Now you can add a 3 point loss on the road against a ranked Iowa team. Jimmy can coach.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

I’m sitting here trying to figure out how the fuck wazzu played at uva but oh yeah

 

[Talkin' Goat]

Iowa State doesn’t really have a QB so they’re forced to play a game where they have 7 offensive lineman on the field. They had maybe 1 completion where their guy was open. Another where their guy dropped it/was a bad throw. Everything else was contested.

Are they good? Not really, and they’re fucked in any game they get behind a couple scores. But they have a great kicker and won’t turn the ball over much. I can’t imagine that’s how their offense is going to look long term.

They’re also in a spot where it’s going to be tougher once teams get more film on them. The couple Iowa player interviews I’ve seen so far have mentioned a lot of different looks than they had seen (based on previous schools film). Kudos to them for throwing a bunch of new shit out there - now is the time to do it - but that opportunity only lasts so long.

 

[douglasbader]

Hank ended up 21-30 and 191 yards, no INT's and 8 rushes for 22 yards and a TD. Shit, that's not bad for an Iowa QB. That's fucking great for an Iowa QB since 2019.

 

[Monster]

Hank ended up 21-30 and 191 yards, no INT's and 8 rushes for 22 yards and a TD. Shit, that's not bad for an Iowa QB. That's fucking great for an Iowa QB since 2019.

I thought he got better as the game went on in terms of going through progressions.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

Felt like they should have gone to McNeil a little earlier or Williams.... or Jackson. Or anyone. There wasn't much there most of the night for Moulton but also felt like he missed some cut backs tonight.

 

[Uff Da]

I know it wasn’t what was wanted or expected but this type of win will hep them the rest of the season.

In what way will winning this type of way help the rest of the season?
Winning at home against one of the worst teams in the country on a late field goal seems less than ideal

 

[Hawk_Kegmasters]

I expected a lot more from the Iowa State QB. He was a true 1-read QB who wasn’t as mobile as you’d assume he would be.

 

[Talkin' Goat]

I thought he got better as the game went on in terms of going through progressions.

Less poopy than I was expecting too, which was a pleasant surprise.

 

[Rolo Tomassi]

I thought for sure he was going to miss after that shitty snap. Curled it in just in time.

All three field goal snaps were shitty.

 

[Malickfan]

Hinkel and Razor Ramon: our most underrated ever WR duo

Ochoa after we beat Michigan 30-27 in 2003.

 

[Pinehawk]

0 sacks. Raynor didn’t really seem that good, or mobile. But, nobody could get to him.