**Official MSU vs Iowa Football Thread - 2:30pm - FS1**

[Hawk&Balls]

I think some people thought it was the wrestling PA guy.

That's what I was told

 

[douglasbader]

Yep, that is why they gave him the Assistant Head Coach title and got him to pass up multiple defensive coordinator positions including the Minnesota job.

As far as @Revolver's post above, time is the clarifier of all things. When things were shitty a few years ago in the midst of Brian and Peaches and people were clamoring to fire Kirk and hire an outside guy, the hot names from 3 years ago are all some degree of shit.

Mark Stoops seemed like a slam dunk coming off his 10 win season and Top 15 ranking at Kentucky. Now a couple years later he's had two straight losing seasons and got blown out by Vanderbilt last night and is about to be fired.

Iowa has had 2 coaches in 46 years, the entire thing is based upon a system built on consistency and development. I would be perfectly fine with them passing the torch to Seth Wallace if that means Phil and most of the staffs stays on and not much changes other than maybe get rid of that worthless Wisconsin shithead Budmayer.

 

[KitKatApples]

I’m a suburban white guy who now lives in the big city!!! How fucking dare you!!!

FUCK!!!

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

I do kind of wonder when he'll hang it up. The guy is in better shape than most 50 year olds and is as mentally sharp today as he was 20 years ago. Cries more.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

Gronowski sucks. Love him as a runner though.

 

[HerkyHopeful]

His pass off the field goal post. Lol. He is very mediocre as a passer and benefitted playing FCS teams for four years. That level was fitting for him.

He's fine and does enough to help Iowa win but nothing we can't live without. Much like Tim Lester. Yet they're light years and of Brian and Peaches/McNamara/Bacon

 

[KitKatApples]

His pass off the field goal post. Lol. He is very mediocre as a passer and benefitted playing FCS teams for four years. That level was fitting for him.

He's fine and does enough to help Iowa win but nothing we can't live without. Much like Tim Lester. Yet they're light years and of Brian and Peaches/McNamara/Bacon

 

[Kerky]

Mentioned earlier about using portal resources in the trenches, but where is the QB on this roster to allow for that, Heckinski?

Also, I am now fully on board with Frodo's evaluations of Gronk. His reads are far too slow, too slow in decision making and he throws an awful inaccurate ball often nose up. Other than that, he is a good leader on the field and good runner with good size. We were so conditioned (battered) with guys like Bacon, Cade, Peaches, that anyone who could even get the ball remotely close to a receiver looked like a God send, which is what Gronk is/was. Even with his throwing shortcomings, he is miles ahead of what we were forced to endure previously.

 

[douglasbader]

Gronowski isn't great. At all. But it is sort of undeniable that he's got that end of game last drive shit down. He's a couple defensive stops away from having 5 game winning final drives this year.

He's also playing at about 70% healthy at best.

 

[2HawkFans]

The play they freaked out on was the long play down inside the 5. Their TE caught the ball after he clearly should have been flagged for a false start. Kirk called a timeout to get an explanation. I believe it was in the first half.

I can't recall the last time I saw Kirk so worked up. I swear I saw steam rolling out his ears.

That sideline ref kept waving Kirk back and not allowing the timeout. I thought Kirk was going to run down and tackle him. He got down to the 15 screaming at him. It was right in front of me and was something to watch.

 

[2HawkFans]

I think some people thought it was the wrestling PA guy.

It was. I recognized his voice right away. Been in a few meetings with him over the years. He's a very engaging guy to talk to. But football play by play didn't come across well. Maybe with some audio adjustment and practice he'd be ok. But I was very happy to hear the current guy back later in the quarter.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Would you rather be Nebrantska, who got blasted in the ass by Penn State today? Or maybe #21 Illinois, who is currently getting blasted in the ass by Wisconsin?

It’s hard to win in the Big 10. Iowa overcame a 10 point deficit on Senior Night, so forgive me if I have a hard time being miserable about the outcome.

I feel like I was blasted in the ass by Kirk today. We just happened to win.

 

[douglasbader]

Would you rather be Nebrantska, who got blasted in the ass by Penn State today? Or maybe #21 Illinois, who is currently getting blasted in the ass by Wisconsin?

It’s hard to win in the Big 10. Iowa overcame a 10 point deficit on Senior Night, so forgive me if I have a hard time being miserable about the outcome.

Yep, or Minnesota getting beat by Northwestern.

 

[Mountain Hawk]

Gronowski sucks. Love him as a runner though.

Podolak him and shift him from QB to RB. Or he could leave.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Podolak him and shift him from QB to RB. Or he could leave.

For the last two games of his career. I like it!!

 

[Mountain Hawk]

For the last two games of his career. I like it!!

I believe we should give our players the opportunity to showcase their abilities, and I think you've identified where his abilities lie.

 

[Bovert]

So the PA guy, Mark Abbot, that’s retiring didn’t do the second half and from the sounds of it the new guy was terrible.

 

[Bovert]

I can't remember the situation but I think it was early second half, Parker tore into Entringer pretty good and Entringer smashed his helmet into the bench. Wonder what that was about?

Parker was mad at Entringer about how he was playing so he yelled at him and Entringer got mad about being yelled at. Hope that helps clear it up

 

[Bovert]

It was. I recognized his voice right away. Been in a few meetings with him over the years. He's a very engaging guy to talk to. But football play by play didn't come across well. Maybe with some audio adjustment and practice he'd be ok. But I was very happy to hear the current guy back later in the quarter.

Probably hard to fire him since he's basically 2nd in charge of the entire University

 

[Bovert]

He announced the Western Illinois hoops game a couple Fridays ago and I thought he did fine

 

[Gushawk]

Gronowski isn't great. At all. But it is sort of undeniable that he's got that end of game last drive shit down. He's a couple defensive stops away from having 5 game winning final drives this year.

He's also playing at about 70% healthy at best.

I appreciate his toughness and wish they’d let him return vs Indiana. And that the staff had embraced his strengths vs ISU. He was so close to going down as a legend.

Excited to see what Hecklinski can do. I think he may have a little Drew Tate/Baker Mayfield/Gunner Stockton in him. May he have balls too brassy to neuter.

 

[Dr. Zaius]

Parker was mad at Entringer about how he was playing so he yelled at him and Entringer got mad about being yelled at. Hope that helps clear it up

Huh?

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Guess it didn’t clear things up for the smartie.

 

[Shawneemicks]

Eleven games in and they haven’t figured out to run Gronowski 3-4 times early to calm him the fuck down

 

[Dr. Zaius]

Guess it didn’t clear things up for the smartie.

Wat?

 

[Thanksgiving Dinner]

Sometimes I think Jacob Gill should be investigated for gambling and other times I'm glad he's on the team

 

[Hawk&Balls]

Sometimes I think Jacob Gill should be investigated for gambling and other times I'm glad he's on the team

Not his fault they don't throw to him

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

Wat?

GUESS IT DIDN’T CLEAR THINGS UP FOR THE SMARTIE

 

[Uff Da]

Not his fault they don't throw to him

Too risky

 

[Shawneemicks]

Not his fault they don't throw to him

But is his fault when he tries to catch with his knees

 

[Thanksgiving Dinner]

Or when he catches a slant he could take to the end zone but immediately falls down instead

 

[CamelTones]

I think Jazz Patterson just naturally trips and falls down once he gets to 5 yards.

 

[Shawneemicks]

I think Jazz Patterson just naturally trips and falls down once he gets to 5 yards.

Both he and Moulton

 

[Shawneemicks]

Kaleb Johnson probably wins a heisman this year with Gronk

 

[cloudhawk]

I do kind of wonder when he'll hang it up. The guy is in better shape than most 50 year olds and is as mentally sharp today as he was 20 years ago. Cries more.

Only cries when they win...so here's to more crying

 

[cloudhawk]

I feel like I was blasted in the ass by Kirk today. We just happened to win.

Weird- I was annoyed at the way they were playing

 

[Greg Obrecht]

Only cries when they win...so here's to more crying

Or they execute a trick play.

 

[gable_guy]

Does anybody know ProKick Australia’s return policy?

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Does anybody know ProKick Australia’s return policy?

I’m sure somebody does.

 

[Gushawk]

I think Jazz Patterson just naturally trips and falls down once he gets to 5 yards.

he runs with extreme forward lean

 

[douglasbader]

This was pretty cool, haven't seen Lavar go nuts like this before at the 30 second mark.

 

[douglasbader]

Also, just think that Wetjen missed out on at least a full year of returning kicks because DeJean was in front of him. Last 4 return guys at Iowa were or are arguably the best in the entire country. Lavar Woods is a magician, especially given that 3 of them are crackers.

ISM
Charlie Jones
Cooper Dejean
Kaden Wetjen

 

[6deuce]

King was pretty awesome too

 

[douglasbader]

King was pretty awesome too

That's right, went from King right into ISM for the most part.

 

[Dr. Zaius]

Just need to get the kicking/punting game tightened up

 

[Mitchandrsn]

That's right, went from King right into ISM for the most part.

Somehow some Max Cooper in there

 

[douglasbader]

Somehow some Max Cooper in there

 

[Dr. Zaius]

*Max Pooper

 

[MisterFalcon]

The other guy was filling in while Abbott was on the field. He was too announcer-y. And too booming that it was hard to understand.

The GOAT

 

[WCFHawkeye]

All 3 Kaden Wetjen's returns, for a 49 yard average for the day: