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Fuck that, josh was a top 150 player with very good offers and he took a chance on a dogshit Iowa program at the time.
We aren't talking about his impact as a recruit. That is well documented.

There was no reason that Fran should have kept feeding him minutes year after year when he was fucking terrible.
He really wasn’t playing over anyone good though.
 

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I actually don't even think you can really criticize Fran for Ellingson at this point.

He was hurt his first year and played 35 minutes and got a medical redshirt. The second year he barely played in Big Ten games and they were 11-3 in the games he did play in. He didn't play in 6 of the last 8 games of the year and when he did it was 1 minute and 5 minutes. The third year he actually had a decent season playing 14 mpg and shooting 48% from three. Last year he was forced into playing out of position and then Fran cut him loose.

Nothing really wrong with any of that at this point.
 

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Oglesby shot 44% his junior year, it’s just that his senior year was really disappointing.
 

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How the fuck did Oglesby get 2,289 minutes at Iowa with those stats?????????

We don't talk about how truly awful Oglesby was and how crazy it was that Fran kept throwing him back out there.
When he was doing those stupid fucking hockey line shift rotations the second unit was always geared entirely around getting Ogelsby three point looks and, not coincidentally, it was fucking horrible. I can't think of anyone who got talked up more as a three point specialist while being so awful from three.
 

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How the fuck did Oglesby get 2,289 minutes at Iowa with those stats?????????

We don't talk about how truly awful Oglesby was and how crazy it was that Fran kept throwing him back out there.
When he was doing those stupid fucking hockey line shift rotations the second unit was always geared entirely around getting Ogelsby three point looks and, not coincidentally, it was fucking horrible. I can't think of anyone who got talked up more as a three point specialist while being so awful from three.
It was literally 3 guys standing and setting screens while Josh ran the baseline over and over and the guy at the top waiting for him to get open. When he finally did he would pump fake, step in and take a long 2.

He did throw a sweet alley oop to Gabe at Wisconsin though.
 

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Oglesby shot 44% his junior year, it’s just that his senior year was really disappointing.
Lol, he shot 44% from the field not from 3. He was terrible, move on.
He shot 40.3% from 3pt, had the second highest eFG% on the team, and the highest offensive rating on the team.

But, EYE TEST!!!

I can SEE WITH MY OWN EYES THAT HE SUCKS!!!!
 

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Oglesby shot 44% his junior year, it’s just that his senior year was really disappointing.
Lol, he shot 44% from the field not from 3. He was terrible, move on.
He shot 40.3% from 3pt, had the second highest eFG% on the team, and the highest offensive rating on the team.

But, EYE TEST!!!

I can SEE WITH MY OWN EYES THAT HE SUCKS!!!!
Oh, so how awesome were the 2 years sandwiched around that mediocre year when he was arguably the worst Power 5 rotation player?
 

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Lol, he shot 44% from the field not from 3. He was terrible, move on.
He shot 40.3% from 3pt, had the second highest eFG% on the team, and the highest offensive rating on the team.

But, EYE TEST!!!

I can SEE WITH MY OWN EYES THAT HE SUCKS!!!!
Oh, so how awesome were the 2 years sandwiched around that mediocre year when he was arguably the worst Power 5 rotation player?
I’m not saying he didn’t suck overall. But his freshman year was pretty decent, as was his junior year. That’s why his senior year was so disappointing. I never even said that his career overall was anything but shitty.
 
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Lol, he shot 44% from the field not from 3. He was terrible, move on.
He shot 40.3% from 3pt, had the second highest eFG% on the team, and the highest offensive rating on the team.

But, EYE TEST!!!

I can SEE WITH MY OWN EYES THAT HE SUCKS!!!!
Oh, so how awesome were the 2 years sandwiched around that mediocre year when he was arguably the worst Power 5 rotation player?
Obviously he had his problems offensively, but did turn himself into a good defender. He would have easily been the best perimeter defender on this 2017-2018 team and for defensive reasons alone I probably would have tolerated him alongside a scoring PG like JBo. The teams he played on did not get much scoring from the PG position so he turned the backcourt into a scoring black hole.
 

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I actually don't even think you can really criticize Fran for Ellingson at this point.

He was hurt his first year and played 35 minutes and got a medical redshirt. The second year he barely played in Big Ten games and they were 11-3 in the games he did play in. He didn't play in 6 of the last 8 games of the year and when he did it was 1 minute and 5 minutes. The third year he actually had a decent season playing 14 mpg and shooting 48% from three. Last year he was forced into playing out of position and then Fran cut him loose.

Nothing really wrong with any of that at this point.
Ellingson's biggest problem at Iowa was what wasn't on the roster with him.
 

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I actually don't even think you can really criticize Fran for Ellingson at this point.

He was hurt his first year and played 35 minutes and got a medical redshirt. The second year he barely played in Big Ten games and they were 11-3 in the games he did play in. He didn't play in 6 of the last 8 games of the year and when he did it was 1 minute and 5 minutes. The third year he actually had a decent season playing 14 mpg and shooting 48% from three. Last year he was forced into playing out of position and then Fran cut him loose.

Nothing really wrong with any of that at this point.
Ellingson's biggest problem at Iowa was what wasn't on the roster with him.
Blacks?
 

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I actually don't even think you can really criticize Fran for Ellingson at this point.

He was hurt his first year and played 35 minutes and got a medical redshirt. The second year he barely played in Big Ten games and they were 11-3 in the games he did play in. He didn't play in 6 of the last 8 games of the year and when he did it was 1 minute and 5 minutes. The third year he actually had a decent season playing 14 mpg and shooting 48% from three. Last year he was forced into playing out of position and then Fran cut him loose.

Nothing really wrong with any of that at this point.
Ellingson's biggest problem at Iowa was what wasn't on the roster with him.
Someone that could take his minutes so no one ever saw him play?
 
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I actually don't even think you can really criticize Fran for Ellingson at this point.

He was hurt his first year and played 35 minutes and got a medical redshirt. The second year he barely played in Big Ten games and they were 11-3 in the games he did play in. He didn't play in 6 of the last 8 games of the year and when he did it was 1 minute and 5 minutes. The third year he actually had a decent season playing 14 mpg and shooting 48% from three. Last year he was forced into playing out of position and then Fran cut him loose.

Nothing really wrong with any of that at this point.
Oh Doug.
 

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Not sure if this is the right place.


He's a white guard, so maybe Fran will give it the old college try.
 

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Lol how nuts schools go over grad transfers.
 

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How many school are interested in Brady
 

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Pretty low risk option. If you have an open scholarship, it doesn't hurt bringing in a one year guy.
Right, but you are the guy really disappointed in marginal guys who don't work out.
No, I'm the guy that thinks a coach should feel heat for fucking up two classes in a row.
Same here, but I give him credit for 2 solid classes immediately after.

You want to be the guy that complains about Garza and Wieskamp?
 

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No, I want to be the guy that complains about a 14 win team.
 
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Wieskamp's AAU teammate Ed Chang decommitted from Washington. If Pemsl or Cook is leaving, Chang could be an intriguing option to fill that scholarship. Iowa was involved in his recruitment before he chose the Huskies.
 

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Wieskamp's AAU teammate Ed Chang decommitted from Washington. If Pemsl or Cook is leaving, Chang could be an intriguing option to fill that scholarship. Iowa was involved in his recruitment before he chose the Huskies.
He is pretty good and a true small forward. The only issue is like you said getting Cook to come back and Pemsl to move on.

I doubt that he is going to wait that long.
 

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He already got an offer from Oklahoma State tonight. I think he will be signed somewhere else quickly.
 

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Wieskamp's AAU teammate Ed Chang decommitted from Washington. If Pemsl or Cook is leaving, Chang could be an intriguing option to fill that scholarship. Iowa was involved in his recruitment before he chose the Huskies.
Here's a picture of Ed's sister, Donna:

 

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I know Campbell showed up a bunch in the 2019 recruiting thread, but because he reclassified to 2018 I'm throwing this in here. Feel bad for the players, but if it could happen to any coach I'm glad it happened to Steve Alford. It would be great if he gets fired this year and another coach enjoys success with these guys next season.

 

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If you knew that Carton was going to commit, then you absolutely take Carton. If you weren't sure and knew for sure that you would get Campbell, then Iowa would need to take him.

Either way, his recruiting is shady as fuck.

He moved a couple times for basketball reasons. Red flag.
He goes to La Lumiere. Red flag.
He supposedly has connections to shady Chicago recruiters. Red flag.
He suddenly commits to DePaul. Red flag.
He suddenly de-commits from DePaul. Red flag.
His ranking has steadily dropped and doesn't play very hard. Red flag.
His hair is stupid. Red flag.
Campbell's name came up in conversation last night....the biggest upset in college hoops history may not be Chaminade over Virginia...it is Campbell staying 5 years at the same school (UCLA).
 
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