***2023 Iowa Football offseason thread***

[KitKatApples]

It was. I am.

 

[Stu Beagle]

Imagine 20 years ago, student athletes getting paid by Casinos.

 

[cloudhawk]

Bookies/Casinos...some say they did and fumbled away their legacy

 

[neshawk]

They own Riverside Casino so it makes sense for them but the optics of college athletes being supported by gambling money is horrible.

 

[HerkyHopeful]

They own Riverside Casino so it makes sense for them but the optics of college athletes being supported by gambling money is horrible.

How about the optics of supporting college athletes with a can drive?

 

[AZmessDAWG]

If another school was doing this and getting players “we” would be pissed that once again Iowa is sitting on their ass.

 

[HSP_Hawk]

They own Riverside Casino so it makes sense for them but the optics of college athletes being supported by gambling money is horrible.

Ehh. NIL has removed the pretense of the "purity" of college athletics.

 

[Greg Obrecht]

I thought the intent of NIL was to have big businesses donate large amounts to support the collective. Not asking Joe Schmo to contribute $20/month. This is a positive imo

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

If another school was doing this and getting players “we” would be pissed that once again Iowa is sitting on their ass.

You and I would certainly get pissed.

 

[KitKatApples]

Ehh. NIL has removed the pretense of the "purity" of college athletics.

The only people that should be mad about this are the schools that were doing it before everyone else could.

 

[Gushawk]

“compensating student athletes for their charitable efforts” brought a sensible chuckle

 

[Hawkeye_Pierce]

It appears that Kirk is going to gamble that all of last year’s issues were Spencer-related and allow his dumb twat of a son to try to improve his resume by giving him another shot.

This could only happen at Iowa. Perfect storm of a weak AD, toothless media, and easily placated fans.

 

[CleteyColgate]

It appears that Kirk is going to gamble that all of last year’s issues were Spencer-related and allow his dumb twat of a son to try to improve his resume by giving him another shot.

This could only happen at Iowa. Perfect storm of a weak AD, toothless media, and easily placated fans.

Link?

 

[Alan Lomax]

It appears that Kirk is going to gamble that all of last year’s issues were Spencer-related and allow his dumb twat of a son to try to improve his resume by giving him another shot.

This could only happen at Iowa. Perfect storm of a weak AD, toothless media, and easily placated fans.

What makes it appear that way to you?

 

[HSP_Hawk]

The fact Kirk’s son, Brian Ferentz is still employed?

 

[Creed]

They own Riverside Casino so it makes sense for them but the optics of college athletes being supported by gambling money is horrible.

At this point, who gives a shit? Optics aren’t a thing anymore. Won’t be surprised when we see dispensaries, bars/distributors, etc supporting athletes either.

 

[Gushawk]

LOL at the pace of this decision. Regardless of the ultimate outcome, even that is something that could only happen here, under Garta’s bold leadership.

 

[Talkin' Goat]

Next person to type optics is getting hunted down and the shit beat out of them.

 

[LifelongHawk]

Next person to type optics is getting hunted down and the shit beat out of them.

That wouldn't look good

 

[Alan Lomax]

Next person to type optics is getting hunted down and the shit beat out of them.

Optics...bring it.

 

[Gushawk]

One uncommon positive regarding Brian (other than his hatred of Iowa State): His capacity to evoke HaLo Thunderdome.

 

[wondergrape]

At this point, who gives a shit? Optics aren’t a thing anymore. Won’t be surprised when we see dispensaries, bars/distributors, etc supporting athletes either.

How long will it take for people to stop insinuating that when their team doesn't get a recruit, the evil winning team paid them more in some nefarious plot to stack the deck against Johnny Hometeam?

Yes, yes the other team did that. There is no insinuation necessary. The other team paid that recruit more money. That's what happened.

 

[Kamala]

It appears that Kirk is going to gamble that all of last year’s issues were Spencer-related and allow his dumb twat of a son to try to improve his resume by giving him another shot.

This could only happen at Iowa. Perfect storm of a weak AD, toothless media, and easily placated fans.

So he saw how horrible the offense was, decided it was Spencer’s fault, and still didn’t try out another qb.

 

[Stu Beagle]

“compensating student athletes for their charitable efforts” brought a sensible chuckle

Who here doesn’t get compensated for their charitable efforts?

 

[Gushawk]

So he saw how horrible the offense was, decided it was Spencer’s fault, and still didn’t try out another qb.

he needed the post-season evaluation period to reach that decision

 

[cloudhawk]

So he saw how horrible the offense was, decided it was Spencer’s fault, and still didn’t try out another qb.

Thats the beauty of evaluating things after the season

 

[BVHawk95]

That wouldn't look good

The Optics room is really thin right now.

 

[Hawk24]

The Optics room is really thin right now.

I hate you.

 

[Hawkstrat]

I hate you.

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[KitKatApples]

Optics...bring it.

 

[HerkyHopeful]

So he saw how horrible the offense was, decided it was Spencer’s fault, and still didn’t try out another qb.

For 3 fucking years

 

[Alan Lomax]

The Optics room is really thin right now.

It's tough when people are out with an optics.

 

[Hawkeye_Pierce]

What makes it appear that way to you?

There was the belief that changes wouldn't be made until after the bowl game. That was almost 2 weeks ago. Recruiting is pretty much done. The more time that passes, especially with Iowa in the Top 25 in most pre-season polls, the less pressure Kirk will feel. He's not going anywhere.

 

[wondergrape]

There was the belief that changes wouldn't be made until after the bowl game. That was almost 2 weeks ago. Recruiting is pretty much done. The more time that passes, especially with Iowa in the Top 25 in most pre-season polls, the less pressure Kirk will feel. He's not going anywhere.

At this point, I truly believe it has nothing to do with Kirk. I think it is all about how good Brian's options are. And they are probably super poor because he is a skill-deficient goon who no one wants as a co-worker.

 

[Shawneemicks]

There was the belief that changes wouldn't be made until after the bowl game. That was almost 2 weeks ago. Recruiting is pretty much done. The more time that passes, especially with Iowa in the Top 25 in most pre-season polls, the less pressure Kirk will feel. He's not going anywhere.

BEEN SAYIN

 

[The Full Monte]

At this point, I truly believe it has nothing to do with Kirk. I think it is all about how good Brian's options are. And they are probably super poor because he is a skill-less goon who no one wants as a co-worker.

Well….that DOES have a lot to do with Kirk

he’s unwilling to fire his dipshit son unless he has a soft landing

 

[Hawkeye_Pierce]

So he saw how horrible the offense was, decided it was Spencer’s fault, and still didn’t try out another qb.

That's the magic of Kirk's retardation. I don't think he ever thought Spencer was an issue. There's was always something else to blame, like a young offensive line. In his mind, Spencer was fine. But McNamara is better and the offensive line will be improved because...reasons. So why not give Brian another shot to repair his reputation?

Iowa football is basically a family business at this point and Kirk has garnered enough goodwill with Iowa fans to pretty much do whatever he wants.

 

[Bob Sanders]

There was the belief that changes wouldn't be made until after the bowl game. That was almost 2 weeks ago. Recruiting is pretty much done. The more time that passes, especially with Iowa in the Top 25 in most pre-season polls, the less pressure Kirk will feel. He's not going anywhere.

The only rumor of any substance that had Brian leaving was him following BOB to New England as a position coach. NE hasn't even made their OC hire yet.

Your arbitrary timeline is made up in your own head.

 

[wondergrape]

Well….that DOES have a lot to do with Kirk

he’s unwilling to fire his dipshit son unless he has a soft landing

I should have rephrased. What I meant was Kirk is not going to make any decisions. He will wait for Brian to say, "daddy, I want to leave."

 

[Fair and Balanced]

There was the belief that changes wouldn't be made until after the bowl game. That was almost 2 weeks ago. Recruiting is pretty much done. The more time that passes, especially with Iowa in the Top 25 in most pre-season polls, the less pressure Kirk will feel. He's not going anywhere.

The only hope was and is Brian goes to the NFL and those staffing decisions should be starting soon.

 

[BngHawk]

The only hope was and is Brian goes to the NFL and those staffing decisions should be starting soon.

I would also accept USFL or high school level.

 

[Alan Lomax]

All timelines regarding this are made up. Kirk obviously operates on his own timeline for everything, forever. It can be annoying, but I don't know that it should be given it is Kirk, and it's not changing.

 

[BuffettHawk]

That's the magic of Kirk's retardation. I don't think he ever thought Spencer was an issue. There's was always something else to blame, like a young offensive line. In his mind, Spencer was fine. But McNamara is better and the offensive line will be improved because...reasons. So why not give Brian another shot to repair his reputation?

Iowa football is basically a family business at this point and Kirk has garnered enough goodwill with Iowa fans to pretty much do whatever he wants.

That's my theory. Iowa has dropped all of this NIL money to rebuild the offense. Why bring in someone else and allow them to succeed when Brian didn't have the same opportunity? It will only further the narrative that Brian was/is incompetent, while the new OC gets all the praise.

I also think the biggest issue is that Kirk (and Mary) doesn't want to send his son and grandchildren to the east coast when they currently live 10 minutes away. Kirk will do whatever he can to preserve that.

This is why nepotism sucks.

 

[Fair and Balanced]

All timelines regarding this are made up. Kirk obviously operates on his own timeline for everything, forever. It can be annoying, but I don't know that it should be given it is Kirk, and it's not changing.

Brian is the decision maker on this.

 

[Debit One]

 

[L. Wade Childress]

That's my theory. Iowa has dropped all of this NIL money to rebuild the offense. Why bring in someone else and allow them to succeed when Brian didn't have the same opportunity? It will only further the narrative that Brian was/is incompetent, while the new OC gets all the praise.

I also think the biggest issue is that Kirk (and Mary) doesn't want to send his son and grandchildren to the east coast when they currently live 10 minutes away. Kirk will do whatever he can to preserve that.

This is why nepotism sucks.

lol. Brian would never have to work another day in his life if he didn’t want to.

 

[demmert4]

lol. Brian would never have to work another day in his life if he didn’t want to.

Can you talk to him about considering that?

 

[Shawneemicks]

So a ticket reduction. I’m sure that means there’ll be a new OC

LOL

 

[BuffettHawk]

lol. Brian would never have to work another day in his life if he didn’t want to.

No fucking shit. That has nothing to do with my post.

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

lol. Brian would never have to work another day in his life if he didn’t want to.