2024 Basketball Recruiting

[L. Wade Childress]

This guy is going to get drafted.

 

[kenos]

If Fran didn't break through with four future NBA players on the roster, he ain't breaking through with what he's going to get going forward.

 

[snips]

Our recruiting and development has been strong lately

counterpoint : our recruiting and development have NOT been particularly strong, ever under Fran
he consistently recruits and develops the exact same type of player over and over and over

 

[The Dad]

If Fran didn't break through with four future NBA players on the roster, he ain't breaking through with what he's going to get going forward.

He let his kids get in the way of that.

 

[KitKatApples]

Kid*

 

[Fletch]

He let his kids get in the way of that.

 

[MikeyJoe]

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counterpoint : our recruiting and development have NOT been particularly strong, ever under Fran
he consistently recruits and develops the exact same type of player over and over and over

Fran’s Big Ten record is much better than his relative recruiting ranking in the same time frame, so you kind of have to decide whether you think he’s good at developing players or an amazing coach.

 

[The Dad]

Kid*

kids**

 

[Fletch]

Fran’s Big Ten record is much better than his relative recruiting ranking in the same time frame, so you kind of have to decide whether you think he’s good at developing players or an amazing coach.

I think he’s great at evaluating and identifying talent.

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

I think he’s great at evaluating and identifying talent.

He is great teaching offensive concepts and developing offensive skill.

 

[snips]

you kind of have to decide whether you think he’s good at developing players or an amazing coach.

interesting point.
looked it up ; fran has overall I am a giant douche record of 136-128 (.515)
for comps, alford was 61-67 (.477)
the good dr was 126 - 104 (.548)

so Fran is a bit over .500 - which aint doghit... but he also benefitted from having the POY, the #4 pick in the NBA draft, another first rounder, etc. on the same team

was that the result of good recruiting? i would argue frans most heralded recruiting strength is finding 'diamonds in the rough ' (like Garza) but he basically got lucky with the murrays. Weezy was going to be a hawk no matter who the coach was

so was it great development from fran? maybe? sure seems though his coaching fell short in terms of tournament success

 

[Fletch]

interesting point.
looked it up ; fran has overall I am a giant douche record of 136-128 (.515)
for comps, alford was 61-67 (.477)
the good dr was 126 - 104 (.548)

so Fran is a bit over .500 - which aint doghit... but he also benefitted from having the POY, the #4 pick in the NBA draft, another first rounder, etc. on the same team

was that the result of good recruiting? i would argue frans most heralded recruiting strength is finding 'diamonds in the rough ' (like Garza) but he basically got lucky with the murrays. Weezy was going to be a hawk no matter who the coach was

so was it great development from fran? maybe? sure seems though his coaching fell short in terms of tournament success

Fran started with absolute dogshit while Davis started with a roster that had 7 NBA players and 2 or 3 others that played in the CBA.

 

[snips]

right before fran we had B Coug? 'lil Lick? that ain't dogshit my friend

 

[Hawkstrat]

We throw the word retarded around a lot here, but holy shit.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

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counterpoint : our recruiting and development have NOT been particularly strong, ever under Fran
he consistently recruits and develops the exact same type of player over and over and over

this is stupid. Fran is either a bad coach or a bad recruiter. It cannot be both.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

this is stupid. Fran is either a bad coach or a bad recruiter. It cannot be both.

Not with that attitude.

 

[snips]

honest question - does anybody think fran is a good recruiter?
i'd say he's not lousy... but i've never heard his recruiting talents being referenced as a particular strength of his. maybe i missed something, don't know.
compare that to 'ol pizza face at isu, where his recruiting constantly is hyped as a major differentiator

 

[kenos]

honest question - does anybody think fran is a good recruiter?
i'd say he's not lousy... but i've never heard his recruiting talents being referenced as a particular strength of his. maybe i missed something, don't know.
compare that to 'ol pizza face at isu, where his recruiting constantly is hyped as a major differentiator

He's good at finding underrated guys and developing them into solid Big Ten players (on one side of the ball). He's good at getting more from less. He's not good at identifying pgs or landing studs.

 

[MikeyJoe]

honest question - does anybody think fran is a good recruiter?
i'd say he's not lousy... but i've never heard his recruiting talents being referenced as a particular strength of his. maybe i missed something, don't know.
compare that to 'ol pizza face at isu, where his recruiting constantly is hyped as a major differentiator

You don’t seem to think he’s good at anything.

 

[snips]

he's good at building a program out of nothing.
he's good at digging up some underrated guys (as mentioned a few times)
he's seems good at retaining player loyalty (for the most part)

 

[The Incredible Hawk]

This guy is going to get drafted.

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His arms have gotten smaller.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

He couldn’t win with NBA players!!

Maybe it’s because he made meh players good enough to get drafted.

 

[CamelTones]

Frans best developmental work was Olaseni and Perkins.

 

[StinkyMcFadden]

Frans best developmental work was Olaseni and Perkins.

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The development ain't great if you can't make him try all the time.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

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perkins had zero other high major offers and as a freshman appeared to have started playing the game within the last 12 months.

 

[StinkyMcFadden]

perkins had zero other high major offers and as a freshman appeared to have started playing the game within the last 12 months.

He ended it like he started.

 

[CamelTones]

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The development ain't great if you can't make him try all the time.

He was destined to be Pat Ingram. About 10% of Frans players have tried all the time. Garza and White might be the 10%.

 

[Lee Beevers]

Frans best developmental work was Olaseni and Perkins.

I’d prolly say Garza, White, Marble, etc. Perkins was always a springy guy who wanted to compete. Fran never conquered the whole “Tony, stop being a faggot” thing.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Fran’s biggest developmental failure was Patrick.

he was also terrible at developing him in basketball.

 

[Lee Beevers]

Patrick is the only player who showed up in that stupid fucking Richmond game. Had he been able to figure it out he would have scored 1500 points at Iowa. Oh well. He wanted to smoke weed and watch anime

 

[CamelTones]

I’d prolly say Garza, White, Marble, etc. Perkins was always a springy guy who wanted to compete. Fran never conquered the whole “Tony, stop being a faggot” thing.

I’m not saying Fran gets zero credit for those guys. Garza busted his ass every day training. White got better but he was basically good from his first game at Iowa when he scored I believe 18.

Olaseni was a project that Fran turned into a legit post. No one recruited Perkins out of high school. I doubt anyone thought he would be on the roster after the first year. He just mentally checked out of a lot of games not played in Indiana.

 

[Talkin' Goat]

 

[Grape Ape]

Fran turned that guy into a 4 year starter.

 

[cjhawks]

Fran to Patrick:

 

[JD720]

This is who we're getting, isn't it...

 

[kenos]

Fran hates us

 

[CamelTones]

You could have told me Bowen Born graduated in 2017 and I would have believed you.

 

[snips]

 

[L. Wade Childress]

This is only his 5th year BTW.

Born had to be leaving for money. So no, it’s not Iowa. But his dad played for ISU.

 

[Hawkstrat]

I can't imagine any program paying for that midget.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

He’s fun to watch, just can’t stay healthy and he’s 5-9

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

So basically Paige Buekers playing mens’ ball.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

We could have kept patrick

 

[Hawkstrat]

Can't shoot, doesn't distribute, is tiny.

 

[Debit One]

Can't shoot, doesn't distribute, is tiny.

By God, they’re playing his music!

 

[L. Wade Childress]

In fairness, there’s no one on UNI’s team I would pass to either

 

[Hawkstrat]

This guy has been helping with basketball NIL, I think

 

[The Incredible Hawk]

So basically Paige Buekers playing mens’ ball.

She’s 6’0.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

That's too perfect.

 

[Hawkstrat]