**22/23 Transfer Portal Thread**

[Creed]

Dear UTSA,

We don’t give a fuck.

Cordially,
NCAA

 

[L. Wade Childress]

UTSA,

NTSA

-NCAA

 

[Hawk24]

 

[Shawneemicks]

Pass

 

[Verbal]

 

[Hawk&Balls]

you guys don't want a free hat and water bottle?

 

[JR Hawks]

The "charitable" component of these collectives is a joke. Disgraceful, actually.

 

[Gushawk]

The "charitable" component of these collectives is a joke. Disgraceful, actually.

reminiscent of some “churches”

 

[Hawk_Kegmasters]

reminiscent of some “churches”

Some?

 

[TVan]

I’d rather give my money to actual charity. Hard pass

 

[ivan_drago]

I’d rather give my money to actual charity. Hard pass

I’ve said this (I’m sure) that I don’t begrudge someone for spending their money in whatever way they see fit, but anyone shaming people for not giving to this shit will be met with a swift fuck off. I donate my money to real charities, not to pay Cooper DeJean to drive a fucking $75,000 jeep.

$20 a month would buy plenty of meals for families staying at the Ronald McDonald House, FYI.

 

[hawkeyealum]

I’ve said this (I’m sure) that I don’t begrudge someone for spending their money in whatever way they see fit, but anyone shaming people for not giving to this shit will be met with a swift fuck off. I donate my money to real charities, not to pay Cooper DeJean to drive a fucking $75,000 jeep.

$20 a month would buy plenty of meals for families staying at the Ronald McDonald House, FYI.

Yeah but RMH doesn’t give you a free cup

 

[The Dad]

You’re not paying for Cooper DeJean to have a Jeep. You’re paying to have a Cooper DeJean.

 

[ivan_drago]

You’re not paying for Cooper DeJean to have a Jeep. You’re paying to have a Cooper DeJean.

I’m not paying for shit.

 

[The Dad]

I’m not paying for shit.

Enjoy your Teegans then.

 

[ivan_drago]

Enjoy your Teegans then.

lol k

 

[TVan]

I donate a comfortable percentage of my income to charity. I assure you not a fucking penny is going to a college football player so he can make more than I do. I won’t shame those who choose to do so, but I will not.

 

[Kerky]

There is certainly enough big money out there that simply needs redirecting to the right resource and not simply building a bigger treasure chest for Garta to sit on a pile of money.

 

[ivan_drago]

There is certainly enough big money out there that simply needs redirecting to the right resource and not simply building a bigger treasure chest for Garta to sit on a pile of money.

Right. They don’t need my or your money. They need a better plan on how to spend Kyle Krause and Bruce’s.

 

[Brad Wesley]

The "charitable" component of these collectives is a joke. Disgraceful, actually.

Being the NIL guy has to be an awful job. Negotiations with entitled douchebags and his parents, pretending there is anything resembling charity within the program, and renegotiating deals with entitled douchebags. Sounds awesome.

 

[ivan_drago]

Being the NIL guy has to be an awful job. Negotiations with entitled douchebags and his parents, pretending there is anything resembling charity within the program, and renegotiating deals with entitled douchebags. Sounds awesome.

Well, if you’re actually making deals it would suck. If you’re the guy who runs the CLLCTVE, I would assume you mostly set up visits to elementary schools and cut $1,000 checks from a binder book.

 

[HiG 2.0]

$20 a month would buy plenty of meals for families staying at the Ronald McDonald House, FYI.

From the value meal menu!

 

[Alan Lomax]

We've got some big Cyclone Fanatic energy up in here.

 

[KitKatApples]

LOL, every one of us pisses money away on shit that could be spent to help people in need.

 

[douglasbader]

I'm not giving a single penny to these athletes. Ever.

Fuck them. I used to live with a couple Iowa football players. Even in the late 90's and early 00's when they didn't have the facilities or training table craziness or a ton of the perks they have now, 95% of them were still treated better than they ever deserved.

They don't need your money. If some other asshole wants to give to them, fine, but I'm not sending $100 a month or $250 or $1000 so Teegan and Sebastian can have more money to blow at the Coral Ridge Mall.

 

[ivan_drago]

We've got some big Cyclone Fanatic energy up in here.

LOL. No. The difference is Iowa has big money boosters. Iowa State doesn’t.

 

[ivan_drago]

(They have one.)

 

[cloudhawk]

What about their mom's billz....

 

[Gushawk]

Some?

some clergy live lives of true austerity

 

[MikeyJoe]

some clergy live lives of true austerity

The vast, vast majority do.

 

[Gushawk]

as a percentage of total clergy, that’s probably right. there’s a “type” (charismatic evangelical or anyone shepherding a mega church) that more often than not doesn’t (or at least wouldn’t if given the chance).

 

[MikeyJoe]

as a percentage of total clergy, that’s probably right. there’s a “type” (charismatic evangelical or anyone shepherding a mega church) that more often than not doesn’t (or at least wouldn’t if given the chance).

That's probably right. People know about famous mega church pastors, but that's for obvious reasons - because they're famous.

The median church in the US has less than 100 members. For every Joel Osteen there a dozen tiny churches where the pastors make nothing.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

The "charitable" component of these collectives is a joke. Disgraceful, actually.

Who says they have to be charitable?

 

[Gushawk]

Who says they have to be charitable?

the irs if donors are taking tax deductions

 

[CamelTones]

On the surface NIL was the right idea. If it was run the way it was supposed to be run Kayden Proctor would be signing with Iowa tomorrow because he’s much more valuable to local Iowa businesses at the moment than he is any business in Alabama.

In that sense, it would have likely brought more parity to college sports because local players would have been more likely to play closer to home. Iowa and Illinois would still not be competing for a national title, but the gap between them and Ohio State would narrow some.

But what it has become is basically what college football always was but on steroids. What bohannon was arguing for was the players get a cut of the profits that the athletics departments were getting as well as endorsement opportunities, not for fans to foot the bill via collectives. Texas A&M and Tennessee boosters came up with this idea and almost every school has copied it because it does nothing to their bottom line.

 

[MikeyJoe]

On the surface NIL was the right idea. If it was run the way it was supposed to be run Kayden Proctor would be signing with Iowa tomorrow because he’s much more valuable to local Iowa businesses at the moment than he is any business in Alabama.

In that sense, it would have likely brought more parity to college sports because local players would have been more likely to play closer to home. Iowa and Illinois would still not be competing for a national title, but the gap between them and Ohio State would narrow some.

But what it has become is basically what college football always was but on steroids. What bohannon was arguing for was the players get a cut of the profits that the athletics departments were getting as well as endorsement opportunities, not for fans to foot the bill via collectives. Texas A&M and Tennessee boosters came up with this idea and almost every school has copied it because it does nothing to their bottom line.

Two things (that I understand have almost no chance of happening) would fix most of the problems the last few years have created:

1) Outlaw the "collectives". Players are free to sign with agents who can negotiate deals, but this sham of payments for charitable work and "appearances" has completely broken anything NIL was supposed to be. If NIL was required to be tied to some sort of actual exchange of business value then it would do what you indicate above.

2) Fixing the transfer rule. Make scholarships a 'contract' that's guaranteed at all schools (like the Big Ten currently does) but put actual transfer restrictions in place. Go back to sitting one year out. Reporters would cry, but whatever. Just say you have to sit out a year but you don't lose that year of eligibility as a compromise.

Both of these are impossible and will never happen. This ends my TED talk.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

the irs if donors are taking tax deductions

wrong. 501c3 defines “charitable” and “fostering amateur sports competion” as different exempt purposes.

 

[The Full Monte]

What this has turned in to, essentially fans being responsible for paying players….while schools like Iowa are involved in some of the largest Media contracts in history….is just absurd. I get that’s a gross oversimplification, but none of this is working out to actually solve the problems it was intended to

 

[MikeyJoe]

wrong. 501c3 defines “charitable” and “fostering amateur sports competion” as different exempt purposes.

Correct. Charitable doesn't actually mean anything about helping poor people or doing some sort of good.

This stuff is stupid, but it's also not like your donations to the zoo or the civic center or whatever are actually doing anything for "charity" either.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Correct. Charitable doesn't actually mean anything about helping poor people or doing some sort of good.

This stuff is stupid, but it's also not like your donations to the zoo or the civic center or whatever are actually doing anything for "charity" either.

my kids love the fucking zoo dude

 

[MikeyJoe]

my kids love the fucking zoo dude

Yep. And Billy Bob loves watching Alabama football.

 

[Whatever]

my kids love the fucking zoo dude

What about the regular zoo?

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

my kids love the fucking zoo dude

Spoiler

 

[Gushawk]

Good luck with that:

Amateur Sports League’s Tax Exemption Revoked – Bea & Mays Attorneys at Law

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Yep. And Billy Bob loves watching Alabama football.

I am willing to donate money in order to have access to the arts. In a town like DSM, those orgs require a lot of financial support.

I will not be donating any money to pay college football players because I am not a loser.

I would donate money for basketball players though.

 

[Brad Wesley]

You’re not paying for Cooper DeJean to have a Jeep. You’re paying to have a Cooper DeJean.

I’m not near Doug’s level of depression specific to college football but if/when we see a guy like Cooper DeJean or Xavier (local guys beloved by Iowa fans) leave for OSU, Oregon, etc, I’ll quickly become apathetic.

 

[douglasbader]

I’m not near Doug’s level of depression specific to college football but if/when we see a guy like Cooper DeJean or Xavier (local guys beloved by Iowa fans) leave for OSU, Oregon, etc, I’ll quickly become apathetic.

Well, you just saw one leave for Alabama.

 

[Shawneemicks]

I’m not near Doug’s level of depression specific to college football but if/when we see a guy like Cooper DeJean or Xavier (local guys beloved by Iowa fans) leave for OSU, Oregon, etc, I’ll quickly become apathetic.

Soon then

 

[Brad Wesley]

Well, you just saw one leave for Alabama.

I’m speaking of guys already on the team.

 

[Brad Wesley]

Soon then

If we continue on this trajectory, yes.