Kirk’s son, Kirk’s son, Kirk’s son, Brian Ferentz (Kirk's back in the fight, boyz!!)

[nolookpass]

I think he's handled it as best as he can. He's disappointed, and it shows, but he's not being petty about it.

yep, dunno what people expected. It's his kid. Just hope he doesn't go bitter Kirk and if he retires, gives Iowa enough time for the search before next season.

 

[Pedro Gomez]

I felt sorry for him a few minutes ago, but now it's clear he just doesn't get it.

Yep. Clear cut 1,2,3 at QB?

 

[JamesMouton]

He's even pissed about playing at Wrigley! Grumpy, old man

 

[TurdBurgler]

All he had to do was have not the absolute worst offense in cfb.

 

[WizardHawk]

Start KF’s farewell tour now.

 

[BillyBob]

Kurt is cooked

 

[HiG 2.0]

While it will suck if this leads to him leaving, I’m not sure how he could have been blindsided by this unless he truly believed he’d be able to find a way to bring Brian back next season as well. Definitely a sign he’s not seeing things from the right perspective.

 

[Mr. Hawk]

GoIowaAwesome is a dumb name and they should feel bad about it.

 

[OlePeep]

He's disappointed, and it shows, but he's not being petty about it.

You so opined prior to the Bacon double-down. Feel free to retract.

 

[PoopyFaceTomatoNose]

Please retire Kirk

 

[coff]

Kurt is cooked

Who?

 

[Hawk&Balls]

Worst case scenario is Kurt anger-coaching for the next 7 years

 

[Soda Popinski]

This makes me like him a bit less.

 

[Pedro Gomez]

Who gives a fuck how that fat ass practices. It doesn't translate to games. Wtf are they evaluating

 

[nolookpass]

Kirk has a long history of picking the wrong qb.

 

[Hawkstrat]

I'm a little sad.

 

[hawkeyealum]

Yep. Clear cut 1,2,3 at QB?

Keeps saying we can't turn the ball over and take sacks but that's what bacon does.

 

[Kamala]

He is disputing that he had a meeting with Beth, Bryan and the president, and also said he learned about it when reading the press release over the weekend.

 

[Pedro Gomez]

Labas must really be in the doghouse

 

[hawkeyealum]

Labas one game against a banged up Kentucky was better than anything I've seen from Bacon. I mean I know it's not practice but come on Kirk

 

[Mr. Hawk]

He is disputing that he had a meeting with Beth, Bryan and the president, and also said he learned about it when reading the press release over the weekend.

No, he said what happened in the meeting was private.

 

[brantshawks]

I still like Kirk. Unless he rapes me or a loved one (and what was I wearing at the time, did I have it coming?) Then I will continue to.

But goddammit.....


The one question that ended with "or are the others just that bad?" brought the lulz

 

[douglasbader]

We've all seen men like Kirk. Our fathers, grandfathers, the old guy that lives next door, etc...

He was open to change back in Spring 2015. He was forced into it but he listened and adjusted and he had a revival.

Now he's just cold and closed. He's frustrated and nearly 70 year old. He doesn't get why people don't see things the way he sees it. He's just a play here or a turnover there away. If given the opportunity after this 2023 season, he absolutely would bring Brian back again as the OC because he truly believes that this is all due to bad luck and injuries.

This is why this had to be done and be done now. He wasn't going to accept it being done before the bowl game, and in 2023 if you wait until after the bowl game with the transfer portal and hirings you are fucked.

 

[Stu Beagle]

I love Beth

 

[hawkeyealum]

I was told she gave Brian the opportunity to resign and he said no. The Ferentz boys really must not have thought this would ever happen

 

[BuffettHawk]

Labas must really be in the doghouse

Labas has one foot out the door, so Kirk won't play him.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

I think he handled that as good as he possibly could and he said about what I expected him to say. I guess I didn't read in to all of it as deep as everyone else. Lol. If he would have said something along the lines of "I was disappointed with the decision and the timing of it", it obviously would have been easier to read in to. He avoided it pretty well. I can't tell you if he's done this year or not from that.

I still like Kirk and think he's a great human being. Hope he sticks around for a few more years and wins.

 

[JamesMouton]

We've all seen men like Kirk. Our fathers, grandfathers, etc...

He was open to change back in Spring 2015. He was forced into it but he listened and adjusted and he had a revival.

Now he's just cold and closed. He's frustrated. He doesn't get why people don't see things the way he sees it. He's just a play here or a turnover there away. If given the opportunity after this 2023 season, he absolutely would bring Brian back again as the OC because he truly believes that this is all due to bad luck and injuries.

This is why this had to be done and be done now. He wasn't going to accept it being done before the bowl game, and in 2023 if you wait until after the bowl game with the transfer portal and hirings you are fucked.

"When you're finished changing, you're finished." - Benjamin Franklin

 

[Uff Da]

limiting turnovers is important

current QB turns it over a lot

ummm, body of work

 

[MikeyJoe]

This was always the big risk when he hired Brian and frankly, it was also the most likely outcome.

I don't agree with the latter, but the first statement is absolutely true. And it's the fundamental reason nepotism policies exist.

 

[demmert4]

"When you're finished changing, you're finished." - Benjamin Franklin
-James Mouton

 

[Turd_Ferguson]

I was told she gave Brian the opportunity to resign and he said no. The Ferentz boys really must not have thought this would ever happen

To be fair, they have been working with a bumbling retard for the last twenty years. The same bumbling retard that gave him de facto control of the program with no one to answer too.

So I can see why they would be so surprised when working with a competent AD.

 

[Mr. Hawk]

The announcement now has to be due to recruiting. I can't think of another (or at least a more likely) reason. They must be getting blowback from all the negative recruiting going on re Brian. The only other reason I can think of is that they're trying to make Kirk retire.

 

[douglasbader]

Well, sad his career is going to end this way. Literally dying on the hill for his fat retarded son.

Fuck Brian for not being a good son and leaving last year. I cannot fathom doing that to my Dad if he gifted me with that sort of opportunity, no matter how much he begged me to stay.

What a fucking asshole Brian is.

 

[WestMifflin]

This is not going to end well

Honestly, it usually doesn't at the end of a long tenured coach.

This whole thing is sad.

 

[Greg Obrecht]

Am I still supposed to be upset that Kirk won’t be Iowa’s HC next year? I’m not. Thank you, Kirk, but it’s time to spend more time with the family.

 

[douglasbader]

I don't agree with the latter, but the first statement is absolutely true. And it's the fundamental reason nepotism policies exist.

I'm not the hater of nepotism that most are. It's been around thousands of years and trades were passed down from generation to generation and you ended up with excellence many times.

With that said, if you don't have a really strong way to deal with it when the kid is untalented or sucks, then you're fucked.

 

[BuffettHawk]

It's a minor takeaway from the press conference, but after hearing his explanation, I respect his decision to not make his players available to the press this week. I understand his desire to keep the team focused.

 

[The Full Monte]

Who gives a fuck how that fat ass practices. It doesn't translate to games. Wtf are they evaluating

I didn't listen....but this line of thinking is EXACTLY why this played out the way it did.

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

I'm not the hater of nepotism that most are. It's been around thousands of years and trades were passed down from generation to generation and you ended up with excellence many times.

With that said, if you don't have a really strong way to deal with it when the kid is untalented or sucks, then you're fucked.

This case has turned into the modern Exhibit A and reminders as to why Iowa's nepotism law was on the books in the first place.

 

[douglasbader]

Am I still supposed to be upset that Kirk won’t be Iowa’s HC next year? I’m not. Thank you, Kirk, but it’s time to spend more time with the family.

I'm upset if he can't get over this and he almost sabotages everything that Hayden Fry and now himself the last 25 years built. He clearly hates the new AD and her method of dealing with this. He thinks she didn't follow loyalty or stability. It would be shitty if he can't see the bigger picture and be the emeritus status person he should be the rest of his life at the University of Iowa.

Unfortunately I could see him uprooting from Iowa City completely and heading back out to the east coast.

 

[MikeyJoe]

Well, sad his career is going to end this way. Literally dying on the hill for his fat retarded son.

Fuck Brian for not being a good son and leaving last year. I cannot fathom doing that to my Dad if he gifted me with that sort of opportunity, no matter how much he begged me to stay.

What a fucking asshole Brian is.

Kirk has been the king of Iowa football for decades now. He's just fundamentally not used to answering to anyone. And over the course of those decades, he's been generally successful and has largely earned that right.

But that seems to have turned into arrogance, and that combined that with hiring his son who underperformed ended up being a disaster. He doesn't see it because he doesn't want to see it, because it's his son. And he's not used to objectively answering to anyone else, and fundamentally seems to resent the idea of outside influence. Just a shitty end of a career for a guy who did a lot for the university.

I mainly agree with @douglasbader about being pissed at Brian. He should have had some goddamned pride and left before this year.

 

[The Full Monte]

Labas has one foot out the door, so Kirk won't play him.

And the "why" is just one big mystery........

 

[Stu Beagle]

The announcement now has to be due to recruiting. I can't think of another (or at least a more likely) reason. They must be getting blowback from all the negative recruiting going on re Brian. The only other reason I can think of is that they're trying to make Kirk retire.

Or because he’s a giant embarrassment, a national punchline. That could be a reason to do it now too

 

[MikeyJoe]

I'm not the hater of nepotism that most are. It's been around thousands of years and trades were passed down from generation to generation and you ended up with excellence many times.

With that said, if you don't have a really strong way to deal with it when the kid is untalented or sucks, then you're fucked.

The difference is that Iowa football is not Kirk's family business. It's a public enterprise.

 

[Greg Obrecht]

I get that, Doug. Hopefully, as some time passes, cooler heads will prevail. He needs to be associated with the program in some capacity. Just not on the sidelines after the 2023 season.

 

[MikeyJoe]

And he's not used to objectively answering to anyone else, and fundamentally seems to resent the idea of outside influence.

By the way, this is why he's going to keep doubling down on Bacon.

Now it's not just about his own assessment of the players. It's about resenting other people questioning his assessment of the players.

 

[MikeyJoe]

I'm upset if he can't get over this and he almost sabotages everything that Hayden Fry and now himself the last 25 years built. He clearly hates the new AD and her method of dealing with this. He thinks she didn't follow loyalty or stability. It would be shitty if he can't see the bigger picture and be the emeritus status person he should be the rest of his life at the University of Iowa.

Unfortunately I could see him uprooting from Iowa City completely and heading back out to the east coast.

Kirk Ferentz should have retired a lifelong legend at Iowa, and I still hope with time he will be. But yes, it's going to suck that he leaves (this year or at some point) with a bunch of resentment because he couldn't be objective about his son.

 

[LifelongHawk]

LOL when Kirk mentioned winning 12 would be nice this year.

 

[Hawk24]

I don't agree with the latter, but the first statement is absolutely true. And it's the fundamental reason nepotism policies exist.

The only possible outcome where this doesn't happen is if he's wildly successful and stays until he's ready to retire...was never very likely. Far more coaches get fired of asked to resign than get to leave on their own terms, thus there was always a damned good chance this uncomfortable situation was going to be at the end of the tunnel.