Kirk’s son, Kirk’s son, Kirk’s son, Brian Ferentz (Kirk's back in the fight, boyz!!)

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I think he's handled it as best as he can. He's disappointed, and it shows, but he's not being petty about it.
yep, dunno what people expected. It's his kid. Just hope he doesn't go bitter Kirk and if he retires, gives Iowa enough time for the search before next season.
 

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While it will suck if this leads to him leaving, I’m not sure how he could have been blindsided by this unless he truly believed he’d be able to find a way to bring Brian back next season as well. Definitely a sign he’s not seeing things from the right perspective.
 

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He is disputing that he had a meeting with Beth, Bryan and the president, and also said he learned about it when reading the press release over the weekend.
 

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We've all seen men like Kirk. Our fathers, grandfathers, the old guy that lives next door, etc...

He was open to change back in Spring 2015. He was forced into it but he listened and adjusted and he had a revival.

Now he's just cold and closed. He's frustrated and nearly 70 year old. He doesn't get why people don't see things the way he sees it. He's just a play here or a turnover there away. If given the opportunity after this 2023 season, he absolutely would bring Brian back again as the OC because he truly believes that this is all due to bad luck and injuries.

This is why this had to be done and be done now. He wasn't going to accept it being done before the bowl game, and in 2023 if you wait until after the bowl game with the transfer portal and hirings you are fucked.
 

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I think he handled that as good as he possibly could and he said about what I expected him to say. I guess I didn't read in to all of it as deep as everyone else. Lol. If he would have said something along the lines of "I was disappointed with the decision and the timing of it", it obviously would have been easier to read in to. He avoided it pretty well. I can't tell you if he's done this year or not from that.

I still like Kirk and think he's a great human being. Hope he sticks around for a few more years and wins.
 

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We've all seen men like Kirk. Our fathers, grandfathers, etc...

He was open to change back in Spring 2015. He was forced into it but he listened and adjusted and he had a revival.

Now he's just cold and closed. He's frustrated. He doesn't get why people don't see things the way he sees it. He's just a play here or a turnover there away. If given the opportunity after this 2023 season, he absolutely would bring Brian back again as the OC because he truly believes that this is all due to bad luck and injuries.

This is why this had to be done and be done now. He wasn't going to accept it being done before the bowl game, and in 2023 if you wait until after the bowl game with the transfer portal and hirings you are fucked.
"When you're finished changing, you're finished." - Benjamin Franklin
 
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I was told she gave Brian the opportunity to resign and he said no. The Ferentz boys really must not have thought this would ever happen
To be fair, they have been working with a bumbling retard for the last twenty years. The same bumbling retard that gave him de facto control of the program with no one to answer too.

So I can see why they would be so surprised when working with a competent AD.
 

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The announcement now has to be due to recruiting. I can't think of another (or at least a more likely) reason. They must be getting blowback from all the negative recruiting going on re Brian. The only other reason I can think of is that they're trying to make Kirk retire.
 

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Well, sad his career is going to end this way. Literally dying on the hill for his fat retarded son.

Fuck Brian for not being a good son and leaving last year. I cannot fathom doing that to my Dad if he gifted me with that sort of opportunity, no matter how much he begged me to stay.

What a fucking asshole Brian is.
 

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I don't agree with the latter, but the first statement is absolutely true. And it's the fundamental reason nepotism policies exist.
I'm not the hater of nepotism that most are. It's been around thousands of years and trades were passed down from generation to generation and you ended up with excellence many times.

With that said, if you don't have a really strong way to deal with it when the kid is untalented or sucks, then you're fucked.
 
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I'm not the hater of nepotism that most are. It's been around thousands of years and trades were passed down from generation to generation and you ended up with excellence many times.

With that said, if you don't have a really strong way to deal with it when the kid is untalented or sucks, then you're fucked.
This case has turned into the modern Exhibit A and reminders as to why Iowa's nepotism law was on the books in the first place.
 

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Am I still supposed to be upset that Kirk won’t be Iowa’s HC next year? I’m not. Thank you, Kirk, but it’s time to spend more time with the family.
I'm upset if he can't get over this and he almost sabotages everything that Hayden Fry and now himself the last 25 years built. He clearly hates the new AD and her method of dealing with this. He thinks she didn't follow loyalty or stability. It would be shitty if he can't see the bigger picture and be the emeritus status person he should be the rest of his life at the University of Iowa.

Unfortunately I could see him uprooting from Iowa City completely and heading back out to the east coast.
 

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Well, sad his career is going to end this way. Literally dying on the hill for his fat retarded son.

Fuck Brian for not being a good son and leaving last year. I cannot fathom doing that to my Dad if he gifted me with that sort of opportunity, no matter how much he begged me to stay.

What a fucking asshole Brian is.
Kirk has been the king of Iowa football for decades now. He's just fundamentally not used to answering to anyone. And over the course of those decades, he's been generally successful and has largely earned that right.

But that seems to have turned into arrogance, and that combined that with hiring his son who underperformed ended up being a disaster. He doesn't see it because he doesn't want to see it, because it's his son. And he's not used to objectively answering to anyone else, and fundamentally seems to resent the idea of outside influence. Just a shitty end of a career for a guy who did a lot for the university.

I mainly agree with @douglasbader about being pissed at Brian. He should have had some goddamned pride and left before this year.
 

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The announcement now has to be due to recruiting. I can't think of another (or at least a more likely) reason. They must be getting blowback from all the negative recruiting going on re Brian. The only other reason I can think of is that they're trying to make Kirk retire.
Or because he’s a giant embarrassment, a national punchline. That could be a reason to do it now too
 

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I'm not the hater of nepotism that most are. It's been around thousands of years and trades were passed down from generation to generation and you ended up with excellence many times.

With that said, if you don't have a really strong way to deal with it when the kid is untalented or sucks, then you're fucked.
The difference is that Iowa football is not Kirk's family business. It's a public enterprise.
 

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I get that, Doug. Hopefully, as some time passes, cooler heads will prevail. He needs to be associated with the program in some capacity. Just not on the sidelines after the 2023 season.
 

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And he's not used to objectively answering to anyone else, and fundamentally seems to resent the idea of outside influence.
By the way, this is why he's going to keep doubling down on Bacon.

Now it's not just about his own assessment of the players. It's about resenting other people questioning his assessment of the players.
 

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I'm upset if he can't get over this and he almost sabotages everything that Hayden Fry and now himself the last 25 years built. He clearly hates the new AD and her method of dealing with this. He thinks she didn't follow loyalty or stability. It would be shitty if he can't see the bigger picture and be the emeritus status person he should be the rest of his life at the University of Iowa.

Unfortunately I could see him uprooting from Iowa City completely and heading back out to the east coast.
Kirk Ferentz should have retired a lifelong legend at Iowa, and I still hope with time he will be. But yes, it's going to suck that he leaves (this year or at some point) with a bunch of resentment because he couldn't be objective about his son.
 

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I don't agree with the latter, but the first statement is absolutely true. And it's the fundamental reason nepotism policies exist.
The only possible outcome where this doesn't happen is if he's wildly successful and stays until he's ready to retire...was never very likely. Far more coaches get fired of asked to resign than get to leave on their own terms, thus there was always a damned good chance this uncomfortable situation was going to be at the end of the tunnel.
 
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