Kirk’s son, Kirk’s son, Kirk’s son, Brian Ferentz (Kirk's back in the fight, boyz!!)

[Harlan]

I'm not the hater of nepotism that most are. It's been around thousands of years and trades were passed down from generation to generation and you ended up with excellence many times.

With that said, if you don't have a really strong way to deal with it when the kid is untalented or sucks, then you're fucked.

There’s a long line of Baders buttering popcorn having not paid their dues.

 

[Talkin' Goat]

The more this goes on, the more I'm furious at Brian above all others. He's a full grown adult that is the son of a really good man and quality human being that would do anything for him.

Instead of doing the right thing, he ruined his father's legacy. Fucking piece of shit asshole.

I honestly don’t think Brian (or Kirk for that matter) understands how shitty he is at his job. I think he reviews the tape and sees a block missed or some other thing and thinks hey if we just clean that up that play works. Except every single play has those issues. And half the issues are because the D doesn’t respect the pass. And the D doesn’t respect the pass because Brian’s play calling sucks. And on and on. He just doesn’t get it and never will. He’s not necessarily a bad coach, but he is an absolutely atrocious play caller.

 

[BluesHawk]

I think he handled that as good as he possibly could and he said about what I expected him to say. I guess I didn't read in to all of it as deep as everyone else. Lol. If he would have said something along the lines of "I was disappointed with the decision and the timing of it", it obviously would have been easier to read in to. He avoided it pretty well. I can't tell you if he's done this year or not from that.

I still like Kirk and think he's a great human being. Hope he sticks around for a few more years and wins.

I still think the old man has some gas in the tank. He's for sure not happy with the way things went down, but I don't know that he's ready to hang it up yet after the dust settles on this season.

I don't know how you can trust him to make a good OC hire if he stays though.

 

[kmurp]

They had 60 yards of offense with all of their good players in that game.

Lachey?

 

[Gushawk]

It’s almost like you have to make him give Beth a list to cross off unacceptable names, such as gift from the heavens Budamyr or anyone over 60.

 

[KitKatApples]

Brian had a chance to go be an OL coach under Bill O'Brien who may not be great as an NFL head coach but definitely knows how to run an offense. Seems like that would have been a better path.

 

[Turd_Ferguson]

I still think the old man has some gas in the tank. He's for sure not happy with the way things went down, but I don't know that he's ready to hang it up yet after the dust settles on this season.

I don't know how you can trust him to make a good OC hire if he stays though.

If Kirk stays, Budmayor is going to be the OC. Literally called the guy a godsend and QB whisperer.

He needs to go.

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

Lachey?

Sorry. Missing a really good tight end. 60 yards. Nothing in the last 3 quarters.

 

[BillyBob]

Budmayr is a Nigerian scammer and serves as prime evidence that Kurt has become senile.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

I honestly don’t have a problem with the original promotion to OC, given the ties to the program. Sure, he was young, but he also had numerous awards as an assistant and a great track record for development.

 

[WizardHawk]

I don't know how you can trust him to make a good OC hire if he stays though.

I’m sure I’m jumping to conclusions, but I feel that ship has sailed now. Nobody has gone over KF’s head in regards to his coaching staff until now….At least to my knowledge. Not saying Beth or the higher ups will have final say in who is next OC by any means, but I’m thinking the foundation has been laid that KF isn’t going to be able to hire/promote just anyone to OC. The next OC is going to have to have a solid track record.

 

[Revolver]

I honestly don’t have a problem with the original promotion to OC, given the ties to the program. Sure, he was young, but he also had numerous awards as an assistant and a great track record for development.

Same and I don’t give a fuck about the nepotism thing if the results are there. It seemed like a good hire at the time, but it was abundantly clear really early in the season last year that it wasn’t working out and likely never would. Had he moved on to another job last off-season and they promoted Woods, I don’t think many would have had an issue with that, either.

But this is a mess of Kirk’s own making and he had no plans to clean it up as far as we can tell.

 

[Uli Kunkel]

The problem with not caring about nepotism as long as the results are there, is that by the time the results AREN'T there, damage to credibility is already done and there's probably a big tangle to unwind. Brian didn't have some unique background and skillset that couldn't have been found elsewhere. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze.

Beth doesn't want to get involved in approving Kirk's hires (provided that comply with university policy). He'll hire who he wants and if it doesn't work out, that's between Beth and Kirk.

 

[StinkyMcFadden]

I think Brian is a dull human; entitled, with a pretty low level of self-awareness. But someone could listen to that and not at least see, at least partially, how he got that way in the first place is beyond me.

He is clearly dumb and an idiot. My dad this and my dad that in his first press conference.

That only last for so long, fuck boy.

You're an idiot retarded meat-head.

Your father is held in the highest regard and you were so horrible at your job that you made people do something.

 

[The Full Monte]

If a decision this drastic DIDN’T include a very direct conversation that he couldn’t simply promote a Budmayr, I would be very very disappointed

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

I honestly don’t think Brian (or Kirk for that matter) understands how shitty he is at his job. I think he reviews the tape and sees a block missed or some other thing and thinks hey if we just clean that up that play works. Except every single play has those issues. And half the issues are because the D doesn’t respect the pass. And the D doesn’t respect the pass because Brian’s play calling sucks. And on and on. He just doesn’t get it and never will. He’s not necessarily a bad coach, but he is an absolutely atrocious play caller.

It's not just that. As the coordinator he is responsible for recruiting and development and management of all personnel and then adjusting strategy accordingly. Has he ever asked how are we in such a desperate situation at QB? Why don't other programs have a WR position group that is whiter than a Jason Aldean concert? Should we consider recruiting a QB that doesn't have feet made out of cinder blocks? Should we recruit/get someone, anyone, on the field who stretch the defense?

 

[StinkyMcFadden]

Here's what it all comes down to:

 

[Revolver]

Here's what it all comes down to:

BF taking the job:

Beth finishing the job:

 

[Herbie2]

I honestly don’t have a problem with the original promotion to OC, given the ties to the program. Sure, he was young, but he also had numerous awards as an assistant and a great track record for development.

What awards did he win as an assistant?

 

[Pedro Gomez]

What awards did he win as an assistant?

Numerous

 

[Greg Obrecht]

Joe Moore award? Lol

 

[MikeyJoe]

Same and I don’t give a fuck about the nepotism thing if the results are there.

This statement fundamentally misunderstands the actual problem with nepotism.

 

[Harlan]

What awards did he win as an assistant?

Daddy’s #1 Boy

 

[Pedro]

I like Kirk as a coach and as a human being. He's one of the nicest people you'll ever meet.

I also don't care if the Iowa coach is a great humanitarian so long as he wins games. Hell, he can be an outright asshole if he wins championships. I'm good with that.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

What awards did he win as an assistant?

assistant to the assistant coach of the year

 

[Alan Lomax]

I like Kirk as a coach and as a human being. He's one of the nicest people you'll ever meet.

I also don't care if the Iowa coach is a great humanitarian so long as he wins games. Hell, he can be an outright asshole if he wins championships. I'm good with that.

Brian Kelly bad?

 

[Revolver]

This statement fundamentally misunderstands the actual problem with nepotism.

I understand the problem is because the relationship clouds Kirk’s vision and hinders the ability for him to hold his son accountable.

I’m just saying that if we had a decent offense and were not blowing games exclusively due to the department that contains the nepotism, I wouldn’t give a fuck if Kirk’s wife were the OC.

It also doesn’t help that he wasn’t really qualified, but hypothetically, if Wisconsin had hired BF as their OC the year he got promoted to that position at Iowa, I doubt there would have been a lot of Badger fans bitching about his lack of resume at the time.

 

[Pedro]

Brian Kelly bad?

He better be starting a muthafucking championship dynasty with that personality.

 

[OlePeep]

I’m sure the pall cast over the locker room from seeing a Dead Man Walking every day won’t result in any deleterious effects on team performance. It’s preposterous he’s staying on. Could even lead to a…toxic environment

 

[L. Wade Childress]

I’m sure that the incompetent coaches kid running the offense made things totally comfortable!!

 

[KitKatApples]

Brian Kelly bad?

He better be starting a muthafucking championship dynasty with that personality.

Ok. No murdering students

 

[BBK]

I wonder if he hires Steve Ferentz now

 

[MikeyJoe]

I’m just saying that if we had a decent offense and were not blowing games exclusively due to the department that contains the nepotism, I wouldn’t give a fuck if Kirk’s wife were the OC.

That's the entire point I'm trying to make to you.

 

[Harlan]

I understand the problem is because the relationship clouds Kirk’s vision and hinders the ability for him to hold his son accountable.

I’m just saying that if we had a decent offense and were not blowing games exclusively due to the department that contains the nepotism, I wouldn’t give a fuck if Kirk’s wife were the OC.

It also doesn’t help that he wasn’t really qualified, but hypothetically, if Wisconsin had hired BF as their OC the year he got promoted to that position at Iowa, I doubt there would have been a lot of Badger fans bitching about his lack of resume at the time.

 

[Nobody]

I'd missed this earlier, so for anyone else who hasn't seen it yet:

 

[Dr. Zaius]

She’s good at this

 

[HiG 2.0]

I'd missed this earlier, so for anyone else who hasn't seen it yet:

She makes me want to become a lesbian. I love her.

 

[snips]

count me impressed.
not only doing things barta was too chicken shit to even attempt... but can answer questions like someone used to be being in charge

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

It's impressive how folks in these roles say a lot of words and deliver zero answers. Lol

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

count me impressed.
not only doing things barta was too chicken shit to even attempt... but can answer questions like someone used to be being in charge

There's no actual answers to anything. Lol. I wasn't expecting any and no one should have been but she delivered literally no answers.

 

[Geese]

There's no actual answers to anything. Lol. I wasn't expecting any and no one should have been but she delivered literally no answers.

Yeah she really didn't answer anything but she seemed to handle herself well. I like her better than barta for 2 reasons : she fired Brian and she gets me a little chubby

 

[Dr. Zaius]

That’s part of the job by not creating a gaffe/sound byte. She’s confident and articulate while not making anything about her. Don’t need a Jamie Pollard up there.

 

[6deuce]

She kinda reminds me of the blonde main character from Orange is the New Black

 

[snips]

but she delivered literally no answers

but.... also didn't say anything stupid, was respectful, turned things to a positive note, etc.

 

[Alan Lomax]

She’s great, I love her. Donors will probably hate her and want someone more like that dipshit Barta.

 

[CurdMan]

The more this goes on, the more I'm furious at Brian above all others. He's a full grown adult that is the son of a really good man and quality human being that would do anything for him.

Instead of doing the right thing, he ruined his father's legacy. Fucking piece of shit asshole.

This has been my thinking, too. However, I still think it’s somewhat possible that BF was actively trying to get out of ic last year and KF begged him to come back for one final run. It was arrogant to think it would get turned around, but on paper it looked to them like it would work. Great DST returning, great portal haul, favorable schedule. Have good results and prove it was shitty qb play, not shitty BF, that was holding everything back. BF leaves with stock on the rise and career back on track.

Unfortunately they never did and never will take into account that BF sucks and KF neutered him to make him even worse than when he started.

I love Kirk but no self respecting OC with other good options will take this job because coordinating offense for KF is where careers go to die. So we are stuck with promoting someone with no play calling experience (Lavar- who would be an idiot to take the job) or getting a Polosek type (OC at a lower level program who would take the promotion and be a yes man to KF). It’s done. I’m ready. Goodbye KF.

 

[Creed]

There's no actual answers to anything. Lol. I wasn't expecting any and no one should have been but she delivered literally no answers.

But she was not a mumbling retard in her answers. The bar at Iowa is not set real high.

 

[KitKatApples]

She kinda reminds me of the blonde main character from Orange is the New Black

Wouldn’t know. Don’t watch gay shit like that

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Beth is working with the advantage of zero prior history with Kirk and Brian.

 

[Creed]

I’d let her strap one on and peg me.