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Well we have to be careful, if we gain first downs and score points vs going 3 and out every time the defense will get exhausted and give up more points.
 

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Never forget (or for most of you, think about for the first time): not everything that can be counted counts and not everything that counts can be counted.

If I had to explain the yin yang of offense and defense it would be that college football teams can choose to be defense-first or offense-first.

If you’re going to be offense first in today’s game you’re going to spend most of your practice reps in the spring and fall tossing the ball around. You’ll end up putting up some good passing stats/points but I think on average it’ll come at the expense of your defense getting reps against the run.

But to be a defense-first team, you have to be good against the run. And that work is done in practice. Against your offense.

Obviously recruiting can skew this but for middling talent teams like Iowa I think it typically holds true.
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Fucking Loog…
 

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You posted that you wanted Kirk to figure out OC, stay for 3-4 more years, and go out on top. That’d be neat but what is more likely? a) he completely changes his philosophy on football, hires a dynamic OC, Iowa runs a modern college offense, and a 72 year old leaves a hero or b) he hires someone who runs essentially the same shit and when he can’t benefit from a weak western division, ends up getting progressively worse and hangs on too long like most HOF coaches before him?

All of which ignores the fact that it was his call to employ Brian. You said yourself there was a 1000% chance he planned to run it back with Bri in ‘24.

Does that sound like someone who is ready to embrace change or should be trusted to right the ship?
That was a lot of words to type to admit that nobody had said they were "scared" about anything.

I'd like Kirk to change his thinking after reflection and go out on top. How that is interpreted as "scared" to you is insane.
 

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He should can himself hawk a loogey
 

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Loog and I are clops. Kirk has told every Iowa fan to lick his balls. Nice little Wednesday.
 

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I’m encouraged that angry Kirk plans to return and prove that beautiful bitch wrong!
 

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Skeptical. He was going to keep Brian until he couldn't. He also trots out the worst starting D1 QB because he's the clear #1.
Hope I'm wrong.
 

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You posted that you wanted Kirk to figure out OC, stay for 3-4 more years, and go out on top. That’d be neat but what is more likely? a) he completely changes his philosophy on football, hires a dynamic OC, Iowa runs a modern college offense, and a 72 year old leaves a hero or b) he hires someone who runs essentially the same shit and when he can’t benefit from a weak western division, ends up getting progressively worse and hangs on too long like most HOF coaches before him?

All of which ignores the fact that it was his call to employ Brian. You said yourself there was a 1000% chance he planned to run it back with Bri in ‘24.

Does that sound like someone who is ready to embrace change or should be trusted to right the ship?
They don’t need to change their offensive philosophy or hire a dynamic OC. And the problem isn’t that they aren’t “modern”. They aren’t running a bunch of outdated stuff.

They just need to be decent. The Nate Stanley years were inconsistent but serviceable. A better, more efficient version of that offense with this D/ST would be great. Or a Chryst Wisconsin offense.
 

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They don’t need to change their offensive philosophy, hire a dynamic OC. And the problem isn’t that they aren’t “modern”. They aren’t running a bunch of outdated stuff.
Yeah, this is the problem with all of the "this is on Kirk, nothing is going to change!" stuff. I agree that not much is going to change. But KOK or Greg Davis were both better than this. The problem is unfortunately that Brian was just not very good as a coordinator.
 

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LFG is right. God damn i love kirk and would hate to see him end a quarter of a fucking century here with his last impression being that of the blind spot he has for his son and the failure of his offense.
 

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Yeah, this is the problem with all of the "this is on Kirk, nothing is going to change!" stuff. I agree that not much is going to change. But KOK or Greg Davis were both better than this. The problem is unfortunately that Brian was just not very good as a coordinator.
Mashing buttons and hoping for the best. No rhyme or reason tying plays together for the most part. Plus really shitty quarterbacks.
 

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Yeah, this is the problem with all of the "this is on Kirk, nothing is going to change!" stuff. I agree that not much is going to change. But KOK or Greg Davis were both better than this. The problem is unfortunately that Brian was just not very good as a coordinator.
And shitty QB play with lack of WR utilization (skill would be nice)

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Being a run-based program makes for a strong defense and weaker offense
Wisconsin had 50 pass attempts in our win against them. That's why the Hawks won.

I still don't understand why Beth is being celebrated for how she handled this. Yes Brian needed to go, but now she's most likely ensured Kirk and Phil are gone too. Waiting until the end of the regular season, there's good chance Brian would have just resigned and Kirk stays on. This idea that Kirk or Brian have nefarious reasons to stick it to Iowa is just stupid. They love the Hawks more than anyone on this message board.

Iowa has been lucky with two back to back coaches over 45 years to do what they've done. People act like any dumb old coach could do what Kirk has done. What Kirk has done at Iowa isn't some baseline measure. Yes the offense has been awful and Kirk's stubbornness over QB decisions is frustrating as hell, but wins are wins.
 

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Wisconsin had 50 pass attempts in our win against them. That's why the Hawks won.

I still don't understand why Beth is being celebrated for how she handled this. Yes Brian needed to go, but now she's most likely ensured Kirk and Phil are gone too. Waiting until the end of the regular season, there's good chance Brian would have just resigned and Kirk stays on. This idea that Kirk or Brian have nefarious reasons to stick it to Iowa is just stupid. They love the Hawks more than anyone on this message board.

Iowa has been lucky with two back to back coaches over 45 years to do what they've done. People act like any dumb old coach could do what Kirk has done. What Kirk has done at Iowa isn't some baseline measure. Yes the offense has been awful and Kirk's stubbornness over QB decisions is frustrating as hell, but wins are wins.
I guess you missed the post above, retard.
 

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Kirk in a CEO role is good by me. This will be his last OC and really his last hurrah. If Budmayr is his guy and the best he can do, then Geotz needs to put him out to pasture. Until we know what direction he’s going with the hire, he rightfully gets the benefit of the doubt.
 

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I like to CEO aspect for Kirk. Over see the program and hire a innovative OC and let him work that side like he does Phil.

I mean he prob does this to some degree but it is noticeably more stale and terrible on offense then defense

Biggest problem I see is that he hates the newer iteration of college football, NIL, the NCAA and now probably Beth. Which is where his focus should be as a CEO of the program.
 

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The- "I didn't mean to cause celebration for those that would like me to start a stamp collection or go bird-watching or something." Brought the lulz
 
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