**Official Iowa vs. Michigan State Football Thread - 6:30pm - NBC**

Dr. Zaius

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The white guys in the secondary looked completely lost. Another lol-worthy dropped INT from Schulte as he got hit in the balls
 

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Aside from Harris and Entringer, they ALL sucked. Fun to watch Nwankpa run up to a guy and try to tackle him by spinning him around.
X has been a massive disappointment. He needs to have a D-Rob type turnaround.
 

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This is what he doesn't get and why Iowa is stuck until it changes. It used to be that way and there was more to fight for and work towards, but now it's a race to 3 losses. Once you hit 3 losses, the season is over. Done. Fucked. Meaningless.

He doesn't understand that and never will.
 

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Bringing a bunch of players back pretty much never works out for anyone. Black, Harris and Higgins have been good. Schulte has been terrible. Jackson’s been very meh. Kyler Fischer never made sense to bring back. I don’t even think Nick DeJong played last night. And Cade has sucked.

I also can’t figure out how the second cornerback spot is this bad. It’s Adam Shada bad. MSU attempted maybe 2 passes in Harris’ direction. Phil did nothing to help them out over there either. MSU didn’t even have any big plays. They just gashed Iowa 8 yards at a time.
COVID year is one of the biggest farces there is. Iowa is even more fucked because now they have to play all of these guys and young guys aren't going to develop and be ready sooner like they should.

You are right about the corner spot. Nestor isn't "Riley Moss is a freshman at Purdue and got picked on and will be fine eventually", he's very unathletic and can barely keep his feet and can't ever hope to stick with Big Ten receivers. He's Tim Dodge bad.
 

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At least we don't have to discuss the playoffs anymore. We can put that behind us
We're free to root for Nebrantska, Wisconsin and Minnesota losses now.
 

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COVID year is one of the biggest farces there is. Iowa is even more fucked because now they have to play all of these guys and young guys aren't going to develop and be ready sooner like they should.

You are right about the corner spot. Nestor isn't "Riley Moss is a freshman at Purdue and got picked on and will be fine eventually", he's very unathletic and can barely keep his feet and can't ever hope to stick with Big Ten receivers. He's Tim Dodge bad.
Riley Moss got picked on against Minnesota but still picked off 2 passes. You could see potential. Nestor did absolutely nothing that makes me think he will be good.

I have no idea why Phil had him playing off coverage inside the 10 on Michigan States last touchdown. Once Chiles checked the play, he needed to come up and force them to beat him to the corner of the end zone. Instead they gave him the easiest throw possible and asked Nestor to make a 1 on 1 tackle where the other guy had a head start.

Across the board it was one of the worst coached games Iowas had in a long time.
 

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Iowa’s offense not participating in the first half was not optimal. No idea what they were doing. Cade is bad, but there’s more to it than that. I think they can win out at Kinnick but beating both Maryland and UCLA on the road seems unreasonable. Go hawks!
I don't know if Iowa can beat Wisconsin. Badgers have seem to found an identity lately and have a solid defense with a fairly accurate QB.
 

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Riley Moss got picked on against Minnesota but still picked off 2 passes. You could see potential. Nestor did absolutely nothing that makes me think he will be good.

I have no idea why Phil had him playing off coverage inside the 10 on Michigan States last touchdown. Once Chiles checked the play, he needed to come up and force them to beat him to the corner of the end zone. Instead they gave him the easiest throw possible and asked Nestor to make a 1 on 1 tackle where the other guy had a head start.

Across the board it was one of the worst coached games Iowas had in a long time.
Nestor is close to Tim Dodge / Adam Shada level, he looks a step above a cornfed walk-on.
 

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Riley Moss got picked on against Minnesota but still picked off 2 passes. You could see potential. Nestor did absolutely nothing that makes me think he will be good.

I have no idea why Phil had him playing off coverage inside the 10 on Michigan States last touchdown. Once Chiles checked the play, he needed to come up and force them to beat him to the corner of the end zone. Instead they gave him the easiest throw possible and asked Nestor to make a 1 on 1 tackle where the other guy had a head start.

Across the board it was one of the worst coached games Iowas had in a long time.
i was suspicious when when Nestor was getting pumped up in spring and then really wasn’t playing at the beginning of the year.

with moss, they knew they had something and let him figure it out, with good corners on the other side.
 

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I don't know if Iowa can beat Wisconsin. Badgers have seem to found an identity lately and have a solid defense with a fairly accurate QB.
The team that beat Washington is still in there somewhere. Wisconsin has ‘found themselves’ by beating Purdue, Rutgers (who just lost at home to UCLA) and Northwestern. Iowa isn’t playing for anything anymore, but the rest of their schedule is basically dog shit.
 

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The team that beat Washington is still in there somewhere. Wisconsin has ‘found themselves’ by beating Purdue, Rutgers (who just lost at home to UCLA) and Northwestern. Iowa isn’t playing for anything anymore, but the rest of their schedule is basically dog shit.
Didn't we think MSU was dogshit too?
 

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Didn't we think MSU was dogshit too?
They’ve lost to Ohio State, Oregon and on the road at Boston College. They have an extremely talented WR and QB that are young but have shown to be very very good coming off a bye.

That dropped interception by Schulte was killer. Chiles would have had 2 early picks and who knows where his confidence would have been. Then Iowa inserted John Nestor.
 

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Just pray for six more wins this year. He acts like he doesn't care about Woody but he does
 

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They’ve lost to Ohio State, Oregon and on the road at Boston College. They have an extremely talented WR and QB that are young but have shown to be very very good coming off a bye.

That dropped interception by Schulte was killer. Chiles would have had 2 early picks and who knows where his confidence would have been. Then Iowa inserted John Nestor.
Second year in a row that Schulte drops an INT that would have drastically changed the game. He's become one of my least favorite Phil Parker era players. I can't believe they didn't let him walk after last season.
 

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Riley Moss got picked on against Minnesota but still picked off 2 passes. You could see potential. Nestor did absolutely nothing that makes me think he will be good.

I have no idea why Phil had him playing off coverage inside the 10 on Michigan States last touchdown. Once Chiles checked the play, he needed to come up and force them to beat him to the corner of the end zone. Instead they gave him the easiest throw possible and asked Nestor to make a 1 on 1 tackle where the other guy had a head start.

Across the board it was one of the worst coached games Iowas had in a long time.
Nestor tripped over his own feet every time he had to switch his hips.

I can’t imagine how much fun the MSU WR must have been having.
 

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Lester also likes to adjust his game plan to how they defend each scripted play. The problem was Iowa kept going 3 and out and Michigan State kept going on long sustained drives that took tons of time off the clock.

I guess he could have abandoned the run and tried throwing more but they were likely going 3 and out either way. If we got to halftime and Kaleb Johnson had 5 carries that would have been a little fucked up.

I still can’t get over the fact that Iowa got it to within 1 score 3 different times in the second half and the defense never made a stop.
The most disappointing part about the defense this game wasn't that they only gave up two touchdowns, it was that Michigan State had 8 different scoring drives. Could never stop them before midfield or a 3 and out.

In fact, Michigan State never punted a single time.
 

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Didn’t Lee come in against Washington and play well? Why sit him yesterday?
 

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Second year in a row that Schulte drops an INT that would have drastically changed the game. He's become one of my least favorite Phil Parker era players. I can't believe they didn't let him walk after last season.
They call him the quarterback of the defense which is bad considering how they pick the quarterback of the offense. They only brought him back because Entringer suffered a knee injury against Tennessee and they thought he was going to miss the season. Then he was fine and their hands were tied so they just had to start Schulte.
 

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The most disappointing part about the defense this game wasn't that they only gave up two touchdowns, it was that Michigan State had 8 different scoring drives. Could never stop them before midfield or a 3 and out.

In fact, Michigan State never punted a single time.
It usually took them 1 or 2 plays to get into Iowa territory. They’re the worst red zone team in the Big Ten and it showed. They killed themselves with false starts and holding calls.

Not sure what it is, but the variance week to week this year for 85% of the teams in college football is looking more and more like the NFL. Could be the additional travel. But you have no idea what to expect out of most teams each week.
 

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I hate all the DBs that played other than Harris & Entringer. Rest of em trash
 
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