***Official Iowa vs Minnesota Gophers basketball thread Sunday Feb 6 3:30 PM BTN***

[L. Wade Childress]

This is out of nowhere.

thats because he misspelled his name the first time

 

[Will McCoy]

I like Robbie Hummel.

He was a helluva player. Felt bad when that injury fucked his career.

 

[BBK]

If he dies he dies

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Hummel is a great analyst that sounds like Chris Williams

 

[Bonner]

Joe T will have a nice junior and senior season elsewhere.

 

[SuperHans]

I’ve seen JR Angle and Andrew Brommer with babes. Just that easy I guess.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Hey, in case you haven’t noticed, and judging by the attendance you haven’t, the hawks are #6 in both offensive and defensive efficiency in conference games only.

 

[Greg Obrecht]

Hummel is a great analyst that sounds like Chris Williams

Sounds made up.

 

[The Incredible Hawk]

He was a helluva player. Felt bad when that injury fucked his career.

Which one

 

[Dr. Zaius]

What is this e-racism people are talking about?

 

[Stu Beagle]

Perkins has looked awful lately. I feel bad for the Key, but he also hasn’t done enough to make me advocate for him to see more minutes

 

[Monster]

Perkins nose got mooshed.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Perkins is bad bad bad

 

[Hawk_Kegmasters]

I’m guessing Joe didn’t get much time because Minnesota’s big guards had a harder time posting to Ulis? That’s the only thing that makes sense.

 

[Greg Obrecht]

I’m guessing Joe didn’t get minutes because Iowa went on a 19-4 run, or something like that, with him on the bench. The coaches stuck with the hot lineup, as they should.

 

[HerkyHopeful]

What is this e-racism people are talking about?

Teams are wearing the same shirts, on the back it says ERACISM.

 

[HerkyHopeful]

I’m guessing Joe didn’t get much time because Minnesota’s big guards had a harder time posting to Ulis? That’s the only thing that makes sense.

There just wasn't a huge need for Joe to start spazzing and dribble out of control today.

He's a 5-15 minute type player depending on the night. Just hasn't improved enough to be anything more than a role player, but the guard production is poor enough this year he tries to do more

 

[Hawk_Kegmasters]

what? he banned or quit?

maybe he finally posted something remotely humorous and went out on a high note?

 

[Monster]

FFS Jbo to point guard isn't the change fans were looking for.

Fans on TOS want it. Some do anyway. There is a thread about it that was started a couple days ago. Admittedly I did not read it because it sounded dumb.

 

[BBK]

If you want to make some lineup changes, that is fine, but JoeT isn't really a guy who should be getting less minutes.

Some changes which would actually make sense based on efficiency would be playing Kris and Sandfart more, and playing Connor, Ulis, and probably bohannon less.

Somehow Ulis' eFG% is lower than Connor's (35%). Not sure if it is just a So. slump, but he's been completely dogshit offensively this year.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

If you want to make some lineup changes, that is fine, but JoeT isn't really a guy who should be getting less minutes.

Some changes which would actually make sense based on efficiency would be playing Kris and Sandfart more, and playing Connor, Ulis, and probably bohannon less.

Somehow Ulis' eFG% is lower than Connor's (35%). Not sure if it is just a So. slump, but he's been completely dogshit offensively this year.

but Joe should be getting fewer minutes.

 

[BBK]

but Joe should be getting fewer minutes.

When compared to bohannon and Ulis?

No.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

Joe should be pissed he's losing minutes to fucking Jordan regardless if he should be getting less minutes. It's absurd and Fran is either a douche or a retard thinking bohannon to the one is the solution.

Cut bait with the 9th year senior who's played like dogshit all year and can't guard a dead body. Ask him to make the sacrifice for the team and play spot minutes off the bench. He can get more minutes if he knocks down a couple early. If not, let him rot.

 

[Debit One]

When compared to bohannon and Ulis?

No.

Fewer than Ulis, yes. The offense runs better when Ulis is at PG.

Fewer than bohannon, no.

 

[Debit One]

The starting lineup change was all about trying to get bohannon more offensive opportunities. The staff clearly thinks that is important.

I am the world’s biggest bohannon hater, but will acknowledge that he was at least trying on defense for the final 10 minutes of the game. That was a refreshing change from him.

 

[nolookpass]

it has always felt like Fran has a quick hook with The Key. I think it's hard for some guys to play well with that hanging over their heads. Not that Joe was ever gonna be all big ten, but he could be average to above average. Guys can play lazy d all night- no big deal. A bonehead turnover and Joe's sitting for the rest of the half or game.

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

Ulis was a huge part of that win. Maybe some teams will have more quickness, but his ability to guard Willis changed the game. I like the key, but Ulis was better playing next to bohannon. The only reason to play Jordan is because other teams still defend him outside the three point line.

 

[Debit One]

it has always felt like Fran has a quick hook with The Key. I think it's hard for some guys to play well with that hanging over their heads. Not that Joe was ever gonna be all big ten, but he could be average to above average. Guys can play lazy d all night- no big deal. A bonehead turnover and Joe's sitting for the rest of the half or game.

Joe’s spazziness is always going to lead him to make plays which frustrate the hell out of a coach. If you’re going to play him you have to expect and live with those. If you can’t you simply shouldn’t play him.

I’m sure that Fran thought that he could coach some of that out of Joe. It’s not happening.

I agree with you that Fran has a far longer leash for defensive laziness (hello bohannon) than he does for turnovers.

 

[BBK]

Fewer than Ulis, yes. The offense runs better when Ulis is at PG.

Fewer than bohannon, no.

To me that seems like recency bias from one game. The numbers don't back up that assertion at all.

 

[Brad Wesley]

Fran needs to ask Billy what he told the guys to inspire that defensive effort.

 

[KitKatApples]

What inspired it was Minnesota sucks

 

[HiawathaHawk]

Fran needs to ask Billy what he told the guys to inspire that defensive effort.

The last 15 minutes or so was fucking great across the board. Everyone was locked into their role, they were communicating and executing. Guys were taking pride in it and getting juiced. Watch that film for an hour and praise the shit out of them.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

What inspired it was Minnesota sucks

Their offense was in the 60s nationally and something like 6th in Big Ten games. Top 5 in the country in not turning it over and in the 40s from 3.

 

[Shawneemicks]

I will not be surprised when this team loses to Nebrantska.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

Minnesota is awful. Lost what? 8 of 9 now? Don't get too excited about the defense.

 

[kenos]

I will not be surprised when this team loses to Nebrantska.

I would not be surprised at any loss this team has.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Joe should be pissed he's losing minutes to fucking Jordan regardless if he should be getting less minutes. It's absurd and Fran is either a douche or a retard thinking bohannon to the one is the solution.

Cut bait with the 9th year senior who's played like dogshit all year and can't guard a dead body. Ask him to make the sacrifice for the team and play spot minutes off the bench. He can get more minutes if he knocks down a couple early. If not, let him rot.

i bet we know more than the coaches.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

it has always felt like Fran has a quick hook with The Key. I think it's hard for some guys to play well with that hanging over their heads. Not that Joe was ever gonna be all big ten, but he could be average to above average. Guys can play lazy d all night- no big deal. A bonehead turnover and Joe's sitting for the rest of the half or game.

its not just bonehead turnovers. He just can’t run an offense other than creating one on one. Plus there’s a high risk of him losing control on the break and crashing into the basket which would cause the game to be rescheduled.

 

[nikolausp]

Minnesota is awful. Lost what? 8 of 9 now? Don't get too excited about the defense.

Ya, but they covered the +13!! Lol

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

Pat has had 7 rebounds in two consecutive games, so that is something.

 

[nolookpass]

Pat looks like a young Paul McCartney. Every time I see him with the ball I hear Band on the Run in the background

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Pat looks like a young Paul McCartney. Every time I see him with the ball I hear Band on the Run in the background

i hear “Junk”

 

[Monster]

it has always felt like Fran has a quick hook with The Key. I think it's hard for some guys to play well with that hanging over their heads. Not that Joe was ever gonna be all big ten, but he could be average to above average. Guys can play lazy d all night- no big deal. A bonehead turnover and Joe's sitting for the rest of the half or game.

Right It doesn't make much sense in that Joe is getting better about not turning the ball over, and as a team, turnovers aren't really an issue, so you'd think Fran would be a bit more patient. Especially since Joe plays good defense and really drives up the pace and intensity of the team.

 

[Debit One]

its not just bonehead turnovers. He just can’t run an offense other than creating one on one. Plus there’s a high risk of him losing control on the break and crashing into the basket which would cause the game to be rescheduled.

I think that this is a real issue, but I have no data to back it up.

Joe T seems to first be looking for how he can go one on one. Ulis seems to first be looking for how he can get the offensive set running.

 

[MikeyJoe]

Their offense was in the 60s nationally and something like 6th in Big Ten games. Top 5 in the country in not turning it over and in the 40s from 3.

Yeah but also Minnesota sucks and that's fun to say.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

i bet we know more than the coaches.

Great analysis here. My eyeballs tell me bohannon sucks.

 

[nolookpass]

I think that this is a real issue, but I have no data to back it up.

Joe T seems to first be looking for how he can go one on one. Ulis seems to first be looking for how he can get the offensive set running.

yeah, offense has been the issue all year.

 

[6deuce]

bohannon is still gonna fuck us in at least 2-3 more games. I appreciated his effort defensively in the second half but he fucking sucks.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

Wasn't bohannon matched up against the lone Minnesota white most of the night?

 

[Hawkstrat]

Not exclusively, but a lot of the first half he was.

That being said, Iowa's defense has been so bad the last few years I'm not going to diminish a good defensive effort regardless of opponent.