**2017–18 Offseason Thread**

[brantshawks]

Yeah! And fuck Crete, too.

 

[Jimmie Dimmick]

Iowa basketball fans

 

[Wanderer]

Really nice article about DJ Johnson. Gonna be a good one.

https://www.landof10.com/iowa/iowa-football-recruiting-dj-johnson-next-generation

 

[Bob Sanders]

Really nice article about DJ Johnson. Gonna be a good one.

https://www.landof10.com/iowa/iowa-football-recruiting-dj-johnson-next-generation

I think he'll end up being the starter opposite Hankins by mid-season, if not sooner. His development could have a huge influence on the outcome of this season.

 

[HawkLax6]

 

[Bob Sanders]

5’11” 215. The walk-on pipeline from Iowa Western continues. I could see this guy being useful at some point.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

5’11” 215. The walk-on pipeline from Iowa Western continues. I could see this guy being useful at some point.

Hopefully within a year or two

 

[Fair and Balanced]

Really nice article about DJ Johnson. Gonna be a good one.

https://www.landof10.com/iowa/iowa-football-recruiting-dj-johnson-next-generation

I think he'll end up being the starter opposite Hankins by mid-season, if not sooner. His development could have a huge influence on the outcome of this season.

Solid analysis Bob.

 

[Bob Sanders]

5’11” 215. The walk-on pipeline from Iowa Western continues. I could see this guy being useful at some point.

Hopefully within a year or two

And your "joke" backfired...

He redshirted at IWCC so he will be a sophomore eligibility-wise this year.

 

[Carter Page]

Really nice article about DJ Johnson. Gonna be a good one.

https://www.landof10.com/iowa/iowa-football-recruiting-dj-johnson-next-generation

Sounds like a great kid with an outstanding Mom. I love that kind of kid being a Hawk.

 

[Bob]

5’11” 215. The walk-on pipeline from Iowa Western continues. I could see this guy being useful at some point.

His juco coach says he thinks he's on scholarship for whatever that's worth. Dunno what the numbers look like right now but wouldn't be surprised if a couple more kids have left, or they put Toks on a medical scholarship since it seems like he probably can't play ever again.

Regardless seems like a good pickup. First team All American at the Juco level and that's a position where they really need bodies. It'd get ugly in a hurry if Young or Kelly-Martin go down

 

[Shawneemicks]

Nate fuckin Stanley don’t need no running backs.

 

[Carter Page]

Nate fuckin Stanley don’t need no running backs.

Could use a WR or two though.

 

[CamelTones]

Looks like Boswell is leaving

 

[Jimmie Dimmick]

who?

 

[Hawk&Balls]

who?

CEDRIC BOSWELL

 

[douglasbader]

That is the second high profile boxer's son to fail at Iowa.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Maybe he’s going to play with Kendrick Nunn

 

[Lime]

That is the second high profile boxer's son to fail at Iowa.

I am a kirk defender but his love for MMA over boxing has always been troubling.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

That is the second high profile boxer's son to fail at Iowa.

That’s got to suck for @nolookpass

 

[Bob]

who?

Dude who was probably about to be like the 8th string corner with the freshmen coming in

Also nondescript enough I initially confused him with Cam Harrell

 

[douglasbader]

I do this about once per year, but get a kick out of looking at the list of FBS head coaches and how rare Iowa's situation is compared with the rest of college football.

Ferentz is of course the longest tenured head coach and only one hired in the 90's. Gary Patterson at TCU is the only other person close after being hired in 2000.

This one stood out..... since Ferentz started at as Iowa's head coach, Nick Saban has had 4 different head coaching jobs and Saban is still is the 10th longest tenured FBS head coach. Bill Snyder retired and came back and is the 15th longest tenured coach.

There are only 16 out of 129 coaches hired before 2010.

 

[HawkLax6]

Ferentz is of course the longest tenured head coach and only one hired in the 90's. Gary Patterson at TCU is the only other person close after being hired in 2000.

And Patterson's first real season was really in 2001 (he just coached the bowl game in 2000).

 

[JD720]

During the team’s max-out period this spring, Fant’s vertical jump this spring would have ranked third in NFL combine history. Stanley witnessed the event and called it “crazy.”

“We’re all kind of doing our verticals at the same time, but when you hear a coach say, ‘42,’ your jaw just kind of drops,” Stanley said. “It’s pretty special to be able to do that. It’s pretty spectacular.”

https://www.landof10.com/iowa/iowa-football-pass-offense-nate-stanley-noah-fant-explosive

 

[Bob Sanders]

Yeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssss

 

[Bob Sanders]

This is also across all sports. Athletes who notify the University of their intent to transfer must be placed in the NCAA transfer database within 2 days.

 

[douglasbader]

Yeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssss

This is going to be interesting to see how it works out. I would say at a minimum it makes every program stronger if used properly and they have a talented freshman class.

Injury situations or even flat out mercenary situations will exist. You can avoid the AIRBHG situations easier by having a deep roster at positions that need it.

The downside is a Fran McCaffery type that tries to play too many guys early and screws up reps and doesn't allow the team to grow naturally.

I wonder if the Bowl Game will be included in this as well.

 

[Mo T]

So a freshman can sit out the first 8 games, and then when depth is needed at the end of the year, they can play without using any eligibility?

 

[Lime]

So a freshman can sit out the first 8 games, and then when depth is needed at the end of the year, they can play without using any eligibility?

yes.

a guy like Ott in 2012 would have just missed (he wound up playing five games) but prevents teams from trying to have to figure out if they want to pull a shirt late.

also basically means everyone will get to play in an early-season blowout and then you can decide long-term plans as you go.

 

[douglasbader]

So a freshman can sit out the first 8 games, and then when depth is needed at the end of the year, they can play without using any eligibility?

Correct.

A school like Iowa that ends us decimated at the end of the season and doesn't have the depth like a Alabama or Ohio State can now play freshman if needed.

 

[douglasbader]

I also wonder if they are going to extend this to anyone currently on the roster at the start of the 2018 season.

 

[Mo T]

a guy like Ott in 2012 would have just missed (he wound up playing five games)

It also would have been to his advantage in his final season. I didn't see any restriction to it being freshman only.

 

[Lime]

a guy like Ott in 2012 would have just missed (he wound up playing five games)

It also would have been to his advantage in his final season. I didn't see any restriction to it being freshman only.

he played six games in 2015. they might have played that differently I guess.

 

[BuffettHawk]

So a freshman can sit out the first 8 games, and then when depth is needed at the end of the year, they can play without using any eligibility?

Correct.

A school like Iowa that ends us decimated at the end of the season and doesn't have the depth like a Alabama or Ohio State can now play freshman if needed.

It also allows the freshmen to develop during the course of the season and provide more value at the back-end of the season.

 

[Wayne Rogers]

You could have players play in 5 bowl games again.

 

[Mo T]

It would make sense to get rid of the medical waiver all-together with this new rule. Takes subjectivity out of any decisions.

 

[douglasbader]

It would make sense to get rid of the medical waiver all-together with this new rule. Takes subjectivity out of any decisions.

The medical waiver is still good if you need a 6th season.

 

[douglasbader]

The players this will suck for is walk-on upper class that will have their playing opportunities taken away.

 

[JD720]

I also wonder if they are going to extend this to anyone currently on the roster at the start of the 2018 season.

It would work out nice for Petras if he wins the 2nd string job like Stanley did two years ago. You get him some mop-up time when you can in case of injury, but don't play him that 5th game unless needed.

 

[rodg12]

So a freshman can sit out the first 8 games, and then when depth is needed at the end of the year, they can play without using any eligibility?

Bowl games count against the 4 games played, though, from what I'm reading. So, really more like 9 games they'd have to sit out.

Overall, a good rule change for Iowa. Sit those stud Freshmen in the non-conference and early conference games to get them up to speed and then have the ability to unleash them at the end of the season.

 

[rodg12]

The players this will suck for is walk-on upper class that will have their playing opportunities taken away.

Not sure this is true. I think it's entirely possible you'll see less true freshmen as full season ST-only players now which would lead to more ST playing time for these upper class walk-on types.

 

[douglasbader]

The players this will suck for is walk-on upper class that will have their playing opportunities taken away.

Not sure this is true. I think it's entirely possible you'll see less true freshmen as full season ST-only players now which would lead to more ST playing time for these upper class walk-on types.

I guess that makes sense. Instead of seeing Max Cooper in every game, you see him in 4 games and walk-ons are relied upon heavier to fill in.

Either way, makes it more interesting to see what the strategy will be moving forward.

 

[Verbal]

I don't think this rule change will have much of an impact on Kirk's personnel decisions at all.

 

[douglasbader]

I don't think this rule change will have much of an impact on Kirk's personnel decisions at all.

I don't agree with that if the premise is that Ferentz plays it safe. He has shown numerous times lately that he will play young guys including a true freshman quarterback and true freshmen linemen.

 

[Mo T]

It won't matter as he won't be around anyways, but it would have made the decision to play Stanley for a quarter his freshman year a little more tolerable.

 

[Bob]

Drew Tate should retroactively get an extra year

 

[Verbal]

I don't think this rule change will have much of an impact on Kirk's personnel decisions at all.

I don't agree with that if the premise is that Ferentz plays it safe. He has shown numerous times lately that he will play young guys including a true freshman quarterback and true freshmen linemen.

All I mean is that there will be very few guys getting playing time as a result of this rule that would not have been getting it anyway.

 

[turtley78]

In the beginning of the season maybe, but I think there could be guys getting some snaps late in the year that otherwise wouldn't.

 

[douglasbader]

In the beginning of the season maybe, but I think there could be guys getting some snaps late in the year that otherwise wouldn't.

Correct, that is what I see as the biggest change. You see guys playing for depth late in the year.

 

[HawkLax6]

I think it will make some bowl games slightly more tolerable for your team when you are 6-6 or 7-5 and they get to play a bunch of young players who haven't played their fourth game yet (assuming your coach decides to say fuck it and play the young guys).