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That's such a 2A answer. :)
That does suck if they been in the same sub-state with Iowa City West for 20 years in a row
I can't remember when they changed it up but they did finally shake up the sub-state parings in the early 2000's and Mousecatine with mediocre team made it and then think they changed it back a few years later or have changed it to rotating.

I do think for something like 30+ years Mousecatine was always paired with the Iowa City schools in substate. In the late 80's as I have mentioned before Wiekamp's dad's team was great. I think they were something like 20-3 and all 3 losses were to Iowa City City High in the years they won the State Championship and then got to the finals and lost in overtime.

Then when I was in high school we were knocked out 4 years in a row by Iowa City West in the playoffs. 2 of those years Mousecatine was either ranked in the Top 10 or good enough to go to state, but every fucking time Iowa City West was sitting right there no matter what. They got to the finals twice and won State once during those 4 years.
Sounds like somebody's butt still hurts 20 years later.
 

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That does suck if they been in the same sub-state with Iowa City West for 20 years in a row
I can't remember when they changed it up but they did finally shake up the sub-state parings in the early 2000's and Mousecatine with mediocre team made it and then think they changed it back a few years later or have changed it to rotating.

I do think for something like 30+ years Mousecatine was always paired with the Iowa City schools in substate. In the late 80's as I have mentioned before Wiekamp's dad's team was great. I think they were something like 20-3 and all 3 losses were to Iowa City City High in the years they won the State Championship and then got to the finals and lost in overtime.

Then when I was in high school we were knocked out 4 years in a row by Iowa City West in the playoffs. 2 of those years Mousecatine was either ranked in the Top 10 or good enough to go to state, but every fucking time Iowa City West was sitting right there no matter what. They got to the finals twice and won State once during those 4 years.
Sounds like somebody's butt still hurts 20 years later.
Fuck yes, it sucked. Not only did we have to end the year with them we had to start the year with them as the first game of the year. So that was 4 years of playing the first game of the year against them and 4 years of getting bounced in sub-state or playoffs. It wasn't like playing some random high school where it was a crapshoot of players, they were always artificially loaded and have been for about 30 years now.

Bergman is a great coach, but really easy to coach when you are getting fed top level players and the offspring of former Iowa players and coaches every year.

I'm pissed!!
 
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I can't remember when they changed it up but they did finally shake up the sub-state parings in the early 2000's and Mousecatine with mediocre team made it and then think they changed it back a few years later or have changed it to rotating.

I do think for something like 30+ years Mousecatine was always paired with the Iowa City schools in substate. In the late 80's as I have mentioned before Wiekamp's dad's team was great. I think they were something like 20-3 and all 3 losses were to Iowa City City High in the years they won the State Championship and then got to the finals and lost in overtime.

Then when I was in high school we were knocked out 4 years in a row by Iowa City West in the playoffs. 2 of those years Mousecatine was either ranked in the Top 10 or good enough to go to state, but every fucking time Iowa City West was sitting right there no matter what. They got to the finals twice and won State once during those 4 years.
Sounds like somebody's butt still hurts 20 years later.
Fuck yes, it sucked. Not only did we have to end the year with them we had to start the year with them as the first game of the year. So that was 4 years of playing the first game of the year against them and 4 years of getting bounced in sub-state or playoffs. It wasn't like playing some random high school where it was a crapshoot of players, they were always artificially loaded and have been for about 30 years now.

Bergman is a great coach, but really easy to coach when you are getting fed top level players and the offspring of former Iowa players and coaches every year.

I'm pissed!!
The Glen Worley years?
 

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Sounds like somebody's butt still hurts 20 years later.
Fuck yes, it sucked. Not only did we have to end the year with them we had to start the year with them as the first game of the year. So that was 4 years of playing the first game of the year against them and 4 years of getting bounced in sub-state or playoffs. It wasn't like playing some random high school where it was a crapshoot of players, they were always artificially loaded and have been for about 30 years now.

Bergman is a great coach, but really easy to coach when you are getting fed top level players and the offspring of former Iowa players and coaches every year.

I'm pissed!!
The Glen Worley years?
He was a freshman the last year. It was a mix of Tobe Newson, Cress brothers, Kevin Kirk, Worley, Seth Madole and they always had a bunch of good role players.
 

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Fuck yes, it sucked. Not only did we have to end the year with them we had to start the year with them as the first game of the year. So that was 4 years of playing the first game of the year against them and 4 years of getting bounced in sub-state or playoffs. It wasn't like playing some random high school where it was a crapshoot of players, they were always artificially loaded and have been for about 30 years now.

Bergman is a great coach, but really easy to coach when you are getting fed top level players and the offspring of former Iowa players and coaches every year.

I'm pissed!!
The Glen Worley years?
He was a freshman the last year. It was a mix of Tobe Newson, Cress brothers, Kevin Kirk, Worley, Seth Madole and they always had a bunch of good role players.
I’ll gfm but which one of those names is an offspring of a former Iowa player?
 

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I can't remember when they changed it up but they did finally shake up the sub-state parings in the early 2000's and Mousecatine with mediocre team made it and then think they changed it back a few years later or have changed it to rotating.

I do think for something like 30+ years Mousecatine was always paired with the Iowa City schools in substate. In the late 80's as I have mentioned before Wiekamp's dad's team was great. I think they were something like 20-3 and all 3 losses were to Iowa City City High in the years they won the State Championship and then got to the finals and lost in overtime.

Then when I was in high school we were knocked out 4 years in a row by Iowa City West in the playoffs. 2 of those years Mousecatine was either ranked in the Top 10 or good enough to go to state, but every fucking time Iowa City West was sitting right there no matter what. They got to the finals twice and won State once during those 4 years.
Sounds like somebody's butt still hurts 20 years later.
Fuck yes, it sucked. Not only did we have to end the year with them we had to start the year with them as the first game of the year. So that was 4 years of playing the first game of the year against them and 4 years of getting bounced in sub-state or playoffs. It wasn't like playing some random high school where it was a crapshoot of players, they were always artificially loaded and have been for about 30 years now.

Bergman is a great coach, but really easy to coach when you are getting fed top level players and the offspring of former Iowa players and coaches every year.

I'm pissed!!
It's ok, Doug. My butt still hurts too. We had a top 5 team and lost to Dusty Wadlington one year and East High in double OT the next. The best part about East High is that they had a white kid they called "Milky." For years I thought they called him that because he was the only white guy on the team. Turns out his name is actually Nate Mielke.

/csb
 

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I can't remember when they changed it up but they did finally shake up the sub-state parings in the early 2000's and Mousecatine with mediocre team made it and then think they changed it back a few years later or have changed it to rotating.

I do think for something like 30+ years Mousecatine was always paired with the Iowa City schools in substate. In the late 80's as I have mentioned before Wiekamp's dad's team was great. I think they were something like 20-3 and all 3 losses were to Iowa City City High in the years they won the State Championship and then got to the finals and lost in overtime.

Then when I was in high school we were knocked out 4 years in a row by Iowa City West in the playoffs. 2 of those years Mousecatine was either ranked in the Top 10 or good enough to go to state, but every fucking time Iowa City West was sitting right there no matter what. They got to the finals twice and won State once during those 4 years.
Sounds like somebody's butt still hurts 20 years later.
Fuck yes, it sucked. Not only did we have to end the year with them we had to start the year with them as the first game of the year. So that was 4 years of playing the first game of the year against them and 4 years of getting bounced in sub-state or playoffs. It wasn't like playing some random high school where it was a crapshoot of players, they were always artificially loaded and have been for about 30 years now.

Bergman is a great coach, but really easy to coach when you are getting fed top level players and the offspring of former Iowa players and coaches every year.

I'm pissed!!
Substitute out a few names and details and this is a post on Cyclone Fanatic about Kansas.
 
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Sounds like somebody's butt still hurts 20 years later.
Fuck yes, it sucked. Not only did we have to end the year with them we had to start the year with them as the first game of the year. So that was 4 years of playing the first game of the year against them and 4 years of getting bounced in sub-state or playoffs. It wasn't like playing some random high school where it was a crapshoot of players, they were always artificially loaded and have been for about 30 years now.

Bergman is a great coach, but really easy to coach when you are getting fed top level players and the offspring of former Iowa players and coaches every year.

I'm pissed!!
Substitute out a few names and details and this is a post on Cyclone Fanatic about Kansas.
Pretty much.
 

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I can't remember when they changed it up but they did finally shake up the sub-state parings in the early 2000's and Mousecatine with mediocre team made it and then think they changed it back a few years later or have changed it to rotating.

I do think for something like 30+ years Mousecatine was always paired with the Iowa City schools in substate. In the late 80's as I have mentioned before Wiekamp's dad's team was great. I think they were something like 20-3 and all 3 losses were to Iowa City City High in the years they won the State Championship and then got to the finals and lost in overtime.

Then when I was in high school we were knocked out 4 years in a row by Iowa City West in the playoffs. 2 of those years Mousecatine was either ranked in the Top 10 or good enough to go to state, but every fucking time Iowa City West was sitting right there no matter what. They got to the finals twice and won State once during those 4 years.
Sounds like somebody's butt still hurts 20 years later.
Fuck yes, it sucked. Not only did we have to end the year with them we had to start the year with them as the first game of the year. So that was 4 years of playing the first game of the year against them and 4 years of getting bounced in sub-state or playoffs. It wasn't like playing some random high school where it was a crapshoot of players, they were always artificially loaded and have been for about 30 years now.

Bergman is a great coach, but really easy to coach when you are getting fed top level players and the offspring of former Iowa players and coaches every year.

I'm pissed!!
Why didn’t you just beat them?
 

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Sounds like somebody's butt still hurts 20 years later.
Fuck yes, it sucked. Not only did we have to end the year with them we had to start the year with them as the first game of the year. So that was 4 years of playing the first game of the year against them and 4 years of getting bounced in sub-state or playoffs. It wasn't like playing some random high school where it was a crapshoot of players, they were always artificially loaded and have been for about 30 years now.

Bergman is a great coach, but really easy to coach when you are getting fed top level players and the offspring of former Iowa players and coaches every year.

I'm pissed!!
Why didn’t you just beat them?
Almost did and in substate and they went on to the 4A finals.
 
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Bergman is a great coach, but really easy to coach when you are getting fed top level players and the offspring of former Iowa players and coaches every year.

I'm pissed!!
If only the Iowa coaches were willing to commute from Mousecatine!
 

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Fuck yes, it sucked. Not only did we have to end the year with them we had to start the year with them as the first game of the year. So that was 4 years of playing the first game of the year against them and 4 years of getting bounced in sub-state or playoffs. It wasn't like playing some random high school where it was a crapshoot of players, they were always artificially loaded and have been for about 30 years now.

Bergman is a great coach, but really easy to coach when you are getting fed top level players and the offspring of former Iowa players and coaches every year.

I'm pissed!!
Why didn’t you just beat them?
Almost did and in substate and they went on to the 4A finals.
But wouldn’t it have just been easier to beat them instead of still complaining about it 20 years later?
 

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I can't remember when they changed it up but they did finally shake up the sub-state parings in the early 2000's and Mousecatine with mediocre team made it and then think they changed it back a few years later or have changed it to rotating.

I do think for something like 30+ years Mousecatine was always paired with the Iowa City schools in substate. In the late 80's as I have mentioned before Wiekamp's dad's team was great. I think they were something like 20-3 and all 3 losses were to Iowa City City High in the years they won the State Championship and then got to the finals and lost in overtime.

Then when I was in high school we were knocked out 4 years in a row by Iowa City West in the playoffs. 2 of those years Mousecatine was either ranked in the Top 10 or good enough to go to state, but every fucking time Iowa City West was sitting right there no matter what. They got to the finals twice and won State once during those 4 years.
Sounds like somebody's butt still hurts 20 years later.
Fuck yes, it sucked. Not only did we have to end the year with them we had to start the year with them as the first game of the year. So that was 4 years of playing the first game of the year against them and 4 years of getting bounced in sub-state or playoffs. It wasn't like playing some random high school where it was a crapshoot of players, they were always artificially loaded and have been for about 30 years now.

Bergman is a great coach, but really easy to coach when you are getting fed top level players and the offspring of former Iowa players and coaches every year.

I'm pissed!!
Not this shit again.
 

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Joe getting doubled on every catch. 3 collapsing on him if it's a post touch. One 2nd quarter sequence sums it all up. He dumped it into the post from up top, dude missed from the low block, Joe came from the 3 point line for the putback. Next play he took it coast to coast for a nice dunk in transition. Next play he was gassed and just stood in the corner then post for about 30 seconds. West never left him, left a couple Mousecatine shooters wide open but they just passed it around for 30+ seconds until they could get it to Joe again. Patrick has been quiet.

Edit: 29-19 West at half. Joe with 9, Pat with 4.
 

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Patrick has West on a 5-0 run to go up 6. FT, putback then a dunk in transition off a turnover. West doesn't even guard the Mousecatine "PG". At least 5 different guys have been primary defender on Joe.
 

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Wieskamp finally a Iowa Hawkeye, boyz.

Going to be the first time in 3 years he won't have multiple defenders hanging all over him on every possession.
 

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I think Lwade is referring to Joe playing the aau circuit, where he played actual basketball due to not having 4 malformed persons next to him
 

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Check out the sick breakaway layup he throws down at the :40 mark.
 

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So we have three white guys between 6 5 and 6 7 coming in next year and two of them can't easily dunk? Awesome. I wonder if John Havlicek can still ball
 

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Talent must be waaaaay down in Kentucky this year. Which is rare.
 

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I watched a couple other videos of Frederick that I found and I’m not as down on him after seeing those. I’m not linking them because I don’t want to find them again.
 
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