Hello CBI

[douglasbader]

Lol.

 

[Jayhawki]

jeffpudd needs a tagline that reads Uncle Rico

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

lol.

I can't find any documentation, but here is a small study on the NBA, it isn't perfect, as it deals with late game scenarios and professional teams only, but you are just way off. So far off that I doubt you have the mental faculties to feel sufficiently embarrassed.


http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/37405/evidence-timeouts-hurt-scoring

Well, your study refers to the NBA, and it's limited to late game situations, which is certainly not what I'm talking about. It appears that you either didn't play the game, or played for a crappy coach. While I didn't play college ball, I played for a HOF HS coach with 400+ wins. After every single time out we ran a set play that was designed to result in a very high % shot. Our goal was 80% made buckets on those sets. These were plays that we were constantly changing throughout the season so that they were difficult to scout, and therefore difficult to defend. If you know anything about basketball, every team operates this way coming out of a timeout. MSU was nearly flawless last night after time-outs. We were lucky to get a good shot off.

Sweet baby Jesus.

 

[DoeyHawk]

 

[IowaWigman]

Christ jeff.

I get that our losses in conference have been to ranked teams so I don't think the season is over by any means, but last night is a game the Hawks should have won.

For Woodbury, I recognize he's a big factor down low on defense so overall he's a positive. It's just frustrating to watch some of the shots he takes.

Anyone have a response on Ogelsby's jumper from my earlier post or have we all moved on from caring about him?

 

[MikeyJoe]

Whoah, whoah, whoah. I don't think Strat knew he was walking into a debate with a guy who played high school basketball for a coach with four hundred wins. Damn.

 

[CosmoKramer]

The last NBA level wing players Izzo has had were Shannon Brown & Mo Ager. That was mid 2000's. It's not as if Izzo has been churning out lottery picks lately like he was in the early part of his tenure. Harris is a true freshman and Dawson is coming of ACL surgery.

 

[jeffcudd]

Whoah, whoah, whoah. I don't think Strat knew he was walking into a debate with a guy who played high school basketball for a coach with four hundred wins. Damn.

How many do you have?

 

[DoeyHawk]

Whoah, whoah, whoah. I don't think Strat knew he was walking into a debate with a guy who played high school basketball for a coach with four hundred wins. Damn.

How many do you have?

BAM!

 

[nolookpass]

how does playing for a coach with 400 wins compare with being on a good intramural team?

 

[jeffcudd]

The last NBA level wing players Izzo has had were Shannon Brown & Mo Ager. That was mid 2000's. It's not as if Izzo has been churning out lottery picks lately like he was in the early part of his tenure. Harris is a true freshman and Dawson is coming of ACL surgery.

They've had a couple of D leaguers, too. Durrell Summers to name one. Draymond Green wasn't exactly a typical wing, but he's in the league now, as well, if I recall correctly. Alan Anderson played in the league, but he was Shannon Brown era.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

how does playing for a coach with 400 wins compare with being on a good intramural team?

welcome back!!!!!

 

[Will McCoy]

During the postgame interview, Fran said Marble will be a game time decision for NW. He said they have a week off after that game so there's a tradeoff between risking him playing and further injuring it or sitting him with a high chance that he'll be 100% for the following game.

 

[Will McCoy]

Fran needs to check himself a bit.

The refs were lucky I didn't throw a basketball at their face from my seat. The charge call on McCabe was made before McCabe even had the ball. Everyone knew that guy was gonna flop and the ref still made the call.

That was a piss poor call. Referees make that call often these days and its awful. A larger man, a stronger man has an advantage when he's backing down a weaker defender. Its a freaking advantage. Now small dudes simply lean on then and then flop. And this is coming from someone who's always the smaller defender. You can't flop in a freakin pick up game - you man up and try not to get manhandled. Now these freaking turds can flop and get a call. POA. Stupid stupid stupid.

 

[DoeyHawk]

Remember that one good game Glenn Worley had against Michigan State? That was fun.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/college/news/2003/01/11/michst_iowa_ap/

 

[Will McCoy]

Just got home from the game.

Woody was really working early in the game on both ends of the floor, that being said I'm not so sure he can dunk. A few missed layups early that should have been dunks but he just seems too fucking scared or something.

Gesell makes some dumb ass passes during crucial times.

Basabe and McCabe played really well on both ends of the floor.

May dribbles and stops to look around at no one open.

Ingram played well, he must not be able to shot at all because he differs everytime he gets the ball.

I thought Clemmons was ok, he seemed to pressure their guards pretty well.

Aaron White just doesn't fucking do anything for stretches on defense. I saw a few MSU possessions where he could have came over on help side but he just stood there and watched. With Marble out, he needs to take it to the rack and get fouled.I will say he was fighting for position and they just wouldn't get it to him a lot of the time.

Oglesby can go fuck himself, hard.

Is this the first game you've watched in a couple years? All of those are the norm except for McCabe and Basabe having a good game. It was good to see Basabe looking healthy again. He was big.

 

[Will McCoy]

Year away, boyz. Subtract May, add Uthoff and Jok.

I am tired of this shit. You are tired of this shit. Fuck next year. Get fucking tough and win games. This was the type of agonizing loss that has plagued this program since Alford left. I agree with Fran, no excuses, man up and execute. Play tough. Win the fucking game.

I am sick of these losses. I have already amped my Sobolewski hatred to a 10. I will be a miserable person next Monday if they piss another away.

They are going to win Sunday and then they are going to honor Chris Street by pissing all over Wisconsin. Bo Ryan is going to cry like a girl.

It'll be okay. Get rid of miserable AZ and bring back the MESSDAWG!!!

Remember how awful they were last year and how much better they were at the end of the year? This team is much deeper, versatile, and better. They will be in a good spot when March rolls around.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

One play stood out for me last night to this point about plays out of TO's. They ran the clear out play for May that they ran for Marble against Minnesota last year on his thunder dunk. Except May did a pussy finger roll that got swatted. How's that Fran's fault?

They ran the clear out play for May

uhhhh....

 

[L. Wade Childress]

fran publicly questions toughness of player A before the game.

Player A misses two free throws in crunch time.

shocking.

 

[Will McCoy]

Many of you guys have gone full fucking retard. We all knew looking at the schedule that losing the first 3 games was a very realistic possibility, but now people are going off the deep end.

True. At the same time, that was a frustrating game. With the likeliness of being on the bubble, that game will impact the chances of dancing.

Can't wait until a few weeks from now when everyone slob knobbing this team after they finally don't play a fucking Top 5 team and get some wins they should have followed by some they shouldn't.

I can't wait either.

This team is light years better than it was a year ago. We would have been buttfucked in all 3 of these games last year and all of these teams are so superior to anything we faced last year.

Absolutely.

 

[Jayhawki]

One play stood out for me last night to this point about plays out of TO's. They ran the clear out play for May that they ran for Marble against Minnesota last year on his thunder dunk. Except May did a pussy finger roll that got swatted. How's that Fran's fault?

They ran the clear out play for May

uhhhh....

Touche. Lol

 

[Will McCoy]

I hope Fran rewinds a couple times during film the play where Payne drives from the 3 point line and dunks.

At least there was good reason to be a pussy there, dude was coming hard.

(Gayest thing I've ever said?)

What irks me is the break away where Clemmons fucking tapped Appling's (maybe it was someone else) shoe. He fucking guided him to the hoop, didn't attempt to defend, then barely touched him.

That was maddening. Retarded play by Clemmons. Either hard foul, go for a steal/block hard, or get out of the way.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

One play stood out for me last night to this point about plays out of TO's. They ran the clear out play for May that they ran for Marble against Minnesota last year on his thunder dunk. Except May did a pussy finger roll that got swatted. How's that Fran's fault?

They ran the clear out play for May

uhhhh....

Lol good point

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Hey will. Go blow Randall

 

[Will McCoy]

Hey AZ. Go eat a dirty cookie from Kip, Butch, Tylee, Marv Cook, and Chopsy. And McCarty and Rummells.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Uhhhh

 

[Grape Ape]

Hey AZ. Go eat a dirty cookie from Kip, Butch, Tylee, Marv Cook, and Chopsy. And McCarty and Rummells.

a dirty cookie?

 

[Will McCoy]

Google is your friend. LOL @ AZ feigning ignorance. Veteran move.

 

[Hawk4Life94]

Hey AZ. Go eat a dirty cookie from Kip, Butch, Tylee, Marv Cook, and Chopsy. And McCarty and Rummells.

a dirty cookie?

It's a West Branch thing.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Google is your friend. LOL @ AZ feigning ignorance. Veteran move.

LOL google is my friend. Oh and GFY

 

[AZmessDAWG]

94 is obsESSed with me.

 

[Hawk4Life94]

94 is obsESSed with me.

Don't flatter yourself range ballboy.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

see?

 

[MikeyJoe]

Whoah, whoah, whoah. I don't think Strat knew he was walking into a debate with a guy who played high school basketball for a coach with four hundred wins. Damn.

How many do you have?

:rotf:

 

[jeffcudd]

Whoah, whoah, whoah. I don't think Strat knew he was walking into a debate with a guy who played high school basketball for a coach with four hundred wins. Damn.

How many do you have?

:rotf:

I see a rolling zero. That's what I thought.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

Can't really bitch about the rotations last night, woodbury, gesell and clemmons all played like freshmen. May is just turrible. Our shooter can't shoot. Mccabe and Mel tried to save us but everyone else played like garbage for the most part. Defense was better at least. Lol

Pretty much sums it up. Some of the bad rotations/subs have been talked about so much that now that's just the first card to play when everyone sucks offensively.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

This team is light years better than it was a year ago. We would have been buttfucked in all 3 of these games last year and all of these teams are so superior to anything we faced last year.

We're worse offensively than we were last year (mainly due to Gatens' efficiency) and that was before these last 3 games.

 

[jd10]

jeffpudd needs a tagline that reads Uncle Rico

i'm beginning to think that he may be the spawn of uncle rico and rec gyno, raised by mrs. blp in a world where the black magic of statistics can only be kept at bay by aggressive denial and willful ignorance.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

Hell, we can't even get consistent buckets on set plays after a TO. Real teams convert at a 75%+ clip on those opportunities. MSU was near 100% last night.

Oh really? You have a link for that?

The bullshit that's getting overlooked is that MSU scored on nearly 100% of them last night.

 

[jeffcudd]

Hell, we can't even get consistent buckets on set plays after a TO. Real teams convert at a 75%+ clip on those opportunities. MSU was near 100% last night.

Oh really? You have a link for that?

The bullshit that's getting overlooked is that MSU scored on nearly 100% of them last night.

You're right. I went back to the play by play on ESPN.com and looked it up. I was way off. MSU was 2-6 on shot attempts (one layup, one jumper) + two turnovers coming out with possession after a TO. Iowa was 0-5 on shots (all jump shots or 3 pt. attempts by May twice, White, Oglesby, and McCabe) plus another turnover. I cannot believe we can't get a higher percentage shot coming out of a TO than Eric May jumpers.

 

[BBK]

lol.

I can't find any documentation, but here is a small study on the NBA, it isn't perfect, as it deals with late game scenarios and professional teams only, but you are just way off. So far off that I doubt you have the mental faculties to feel sufficiently embarrassed.


http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/37405/evidence-timeouts-hurt-scoring

Well, your study refers to the NBA, and it's limited to late game situations, which is certainly not what I'm talking about. It appears that you either didn't play the game, or played for a crappy coach. While I didn't play college ball, I played for a HOF HS coach with 400+ wins. After every single time out we ran a set play that was designed to result in a very high % shot. Our goal was 80% made buckets on those sets. These were plays that we were constantly changing throughout the season so that they were difficult to scout, and therefore difficult to defend. If you know anything about basketball, every team operates this way coming out of a timeout. MSU was nearly flawless last night after time-outs. We were lucky to get a good shot off.

:rotf::rotf::rotf:

 

[scottsdalehawk]

This board needs to be locked until after the game Sunday. Shut it down!

 

[jeffcudd]

lol.

I can't find any documentation, but here is a small study on the NBA, it isn't perfect, as it deals with late game scenarios and professional teams only, but you are just way off. So far off that I doubt you have the mental faculties to feel sufficiently embarrassed.


http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/37405/evidence-timeouts-hurt-scoring

Well, your study refers to the NBA, and it's limited to late game situations, which is certainly not what I'm talking about. It appears that you either didn't play the game, or played for a crappy coach. While I didn't play college ball, I played for a HOF HS coach with 400+ wins. After every single time out we ran a set play that was designed to result in a very high % shot. Our goal was 80% made buckets on those sets. These were plays that we were constantly changing throughout the season so that they were difficult to scout, and therefore difficult to defend. If you know anything about basketball, every team operates this way coming out of a timeout. MSU was nearly flawless last night after time-outs. We were lucky to get a good shot off.

:rotf::rotf::rotf:

Like I said, I was wrong about MSU. I was exactly right about us, though.

 

[Jayhawki]

self-pwn?

 

[Soda Popinski]

Good grief.

 

[Herbie2]

Again?

 

[AZmessDAWG]

YePPPPPPPPPPPP

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Imagine how much AZ would bitch about White if he was black.

Wow

 

[Dr. Zaius]

 

[HiawathaHawk]

Wow

I don’t even know what that would have referred to. 11 years ago. Maybe you were too hard on Basabe or Cartwright? Maybe I was drunk?