Iowa State Football Bashing Thread

[StinkyMcFadden]

Dear Iowa Legislature,

Please send money.

Warm regards,

Jamie

"We all knew this was gonna happen like this. Did I mention we're building an entertainment district based on sports attendance and rapid strep tests?"

 

[Wanderer]

"We all knew this was gonna happen like this. Did I mention we're building an entertainment district based on sports attendance and rapid strep tests?"

Your people Stink. Loyal son, forever true.

 

[Uff Da]

Dear Iowa Legislature,

Please send money.

Warm regards,

Jamie

So dumb. Iowa State can still have sports without money from the state. What exactly does Central Iowa get out of Iowa State spending 20.5 million in revenue sharing?

 

[newsbreaker]

So dumb. Iowa State can still have sports without money from the state. What exactly does Central Iowa get out of Iowa State spending 20.5 million in revenue sharing?

Without ISU athletics, the businesses Jamie is trying to compete with in his vanity project won’t exist. It’s very important they survive until he runs them out of business.

 

[PAULA CLARK]

They should just ask for more donations from the greatest fans in the world.

 

[KitKatApples]

Without ISU athletics, the businesses Jamie is trying to compete with in his vanity project won’t exist. It’s very important they survive until he runs them out of business.

It's even worse for them than we ever dreamed it could be.

 

[Brad Wesley]

I can’t stand Pollard’s voice so I’m not watching him whine.

After the settlement money is paid, can’t ISU simply choose not to pay the players from revenues and source all NIL payments from the little guy?

 

[WCFHawkeye]

I can’t stand Pollard’s voice so I’m not watching him whine.

After the settlement money is paid, can’t ISU simply choose not to pay the players from revenues and source all NIL payments from the little guy?

I'm not sure if Blum has deep enough pockets to cover it all.

 

[newsbreaker]

I can’t stand Pollard’s voice so I’m not watching him whine.

After the settlement money is paid, can’t ISU simply choose not to pay the players from revenues and source all NIL payments from the little guy?

I believe they can opt out of revenue sharing, but then their recruiting becomes impossible.

Ultimately, this is what may end up kneecapping the B12 and ACC. A lot of schools there don't have excess revenue to share. What he's really asking for is for the Legislature to give him the 20M a year to pay the players.

 

[gable_guy]

They make plenty of cargo shorts in junior sizes

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

I believe they can opt out of revenue sharing, but then their recruiting becomes impossible.

Ultimately, this is what may end up kneecapping the B12 and ACC. A lot of schools there don't have excess revenue to share. What he's really asking for is for the Legislature to give him the 20M a year to pay the players.

Which should be a nonstarter, but this might also be the worst state legislature in America.

 

[Silky Johnson]

Yeah, if you’re gonna do that just go all the way and have the state itself run a minor league team.

 

[KitKatApples]

I believe they can opt out of revenue sharing, but then their recruiting becomes impossible.

Ultimately, this is what may end up kneecapping the B12 and ACC. A lot of schools there don't have excess revenue to share. What he's really asking for is for the Legislature to give him the 20M a year to pay the players.

 

[Soda Popinski]

I believe they can opt out of revenue sharing, but then their recruiting becomes impossible.

Ultimately, this is what may end up kneecapping the B12 and ACC. A lot of schools there don't have excess revenue to share. What he's really asking for is for the Legislature to give him the 20M a year to pay the players.

Fuck that. There's nothing special about Iowa State that the Legislature should be giving them a pile of cash the other schools don't get.

Eat shit, Jamie.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

Should Drake and UNI also get this money?

Why not Loras and Dordt?

 

[newsbreaker]

Which should be a nonstarter, but this might also be the worst state legislature in America.

Funding for the state regents schools has been declining for decades. I don't think it's as likely as 10 or 20 years ago.

What they might do is let the school redirect general fund money, which is only hurting the core mission of the university so fat Carl can watch their teams play particular opponents.

Should Drake and UNI also get this money?

Why not Loras and Dordt?

Obviously brining up private colleges is stupid, as they aren't stated funded, but UNI will be making all kinds of arguments. They've been fiscally responsible, to their serious competitive detriment, and have been doing a frankly incredible job of private fundraising for facilities improvements, considering their alumni base and size.

But if ISU is going to get a straight appropriation for athletics, there is no argument why UNI (and Iowa) shouldn't receive the same.

 

[Wanderer]

Should Drake and UNI also get this money?

Why not Loras and Dordt?

Maharishi U could field a team. That would be great for the Fairfield metro!

 

[gable_guy]

That would be transcendental for them

 

[Brad Wesley]

I believe they can opt out of revenue sharing, but then their recruiting becomes impossible.

Ultimately, this is what may end up kneecapping the B12 and ACC. A lot of schools there don't have excess revenue to share. What he's really asking for is for the Legislature to give him the 20M a year to pay the players.

My guess is that most public Big 12 schools are having similar problems which should provide a competitive market for recruiting within the conference.

Pollard is the ultimate weasel. I can see him twisting this argument suggesting that other sports will have to be eliminated if he doesn’t get a bailout. The answer is obvious. Live within your means. Sure, they won’t be able to compete against P2 schools for high end recruits, and they will lose most of their talent, but ultimately they can still maintain a football program, albeit a shitty one from a national perspective.

 

[cloudhawk]

The answer is the same as it has always been- relagayion

 

[cloudhawk]

Lol- not changing it

 

[newsbreaker]

My guess is that most public Big 12 schools are having similar problems which should provide a competitive market for recruiting within the conference.

Pollard is the ultimate weasel. I can see him twisting this argument suggesting that other sports will have to be eliminated if he doesn’t get a bailout. The answer is obvious. Live within your means. Sure, they won’t be able to compete against P2 schools for high end recruits, and they will lose most of their talent, but ultimately they can still maintain a football program, albeit a shitty one from a national perspective.

Aren't they at the FBS minimum, for number of sports? If they aren't, they're very close.

Even the MWC schools are opting in to "revenue sharing," and most are going to go to the maximum amount (20M) even though it's a larger percentage of their revenues. The American Conference has set at 10M minimum for their schools. I'd guess CUSA will do something similar.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

I'm not sure if Blum has deep enough pockets to cover it all.

with a 16” inseam, it seems doubtful.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Should Drake and UNI also get this money?

Why not Loras and Dordt?

UNI should, yes.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

My guess is that most public Big 12 schools are having similar problems which should provide a competitive market for recruiting within the conference.

Pollard is the ultimate weasel. I can see him twisting this argument suggesting that other sports will have to be eliminated if he doesn’t get a bailout. The answer is obvious. Live within your means. Sure, they won’t be able to compete against P2 schools for high end recruits, and they will lose most of their talent, but ultimately they can still maintain a football program, albeit a shitty one from a national perspective.

also, don’t build strip malls when many other strip malls are sitting empty.

 

[Verbal]

also, don’t build strip malls when many other strip malls are sitting empty.

Have they even put a shovel in the ground yet? I remain unconvinced the project will happen.

 

[newsbreaker]

Have they even put a shovel in the ground yet? I remain unconvinced the project will happen.

Yes. The medical clinic is being built, and they've done a bunch of "infrastructure" work. None of the other buildings are under construction, though.

 

[Brad Wesley]

Aren't they at the FBS minimum, for number of sports? If they aren't, they're very close.

Even the MWC schools are opting in to "revenue sharing," and most are going to go to the maximum amount (20M) even though it's a larger percentage of their revenues. The American Conference has set at 10M minimum for their schools. I'd guess CUSA will do something similar.

I don’t know, but would assume they’re flirting with FBS minimum.

If the Big 12 sets rev share min and a ISU can’t make it work? Where do they go?

The longer we discuss this, the more likely it is they get the money somehow. Perhaps it’s my pessimistic nature, but I don’t see the legislature not caving. Hope I’m wrong.

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

I don’t know, but would assume they’re flirting with FBS minimum.

If the Big 12 sets rev share min and a ISU can’t make it work? Where do they go?

The longer we discuss this, the more likely it is they get the money somehow. Perhaps it’s my pessimistic nature, but I don’t see the legislature not caving. Hope I’m wrong.

Maybe they will have to take money from their cross country and golf programs.

 

[KitKatApples]

Aren't they at the FBS minimum, for number of sports? If they aren't, they're very close.

Even the MWC schools are opting in to "revenue sharing," and most are going to go to the maximum amount (20M) even though it's a larger percentage of their revenues. The American Conference has set at 10M minimum for their schools. I'd guess CUSA will do something similar.

I don’t know, but would assume they’re flirting with FBS minimum.

If the Big 12 sets rev share min and a ISU can’t make it work? Where do they go?

The longer we discuss this, the more likely it is they get the money somehow. Perhaps it’s my pessimistic nature, but I don’t see the legislature not caving. Hope I’m wrong.

They are at the minimum. Also LOL at not even being able to afford to be in the Mountain West too.

 

[KitKatApples]

 

[fossilhawk]

Maybe, and this is a big maybe, Pollard shouldn't have saddled ISU with massive development costs for his little boondoggle at the same time NIL became a thing.

And I think their AD already gets money from the general fund to operate stuff like C. Y. Stephens, which if memory serves has eight figures of deferred maintenance costs pending.

They might be painting themselves into a corner with a notoriously cheap fanbase looking at less disposable income from tariffs, a state legislature that is hostile to increased educational spending and scrambling to plug holes from their own boondoggle, and a university administration which is probably hostile to subsidizing athletics.

One also observes that Wendy Wintersteen will retire in January. Curious timing.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

Oh no

 

[Hawk_Kegmasters]

One also observes that Wendy Wintersteen will retire in January. Curious timing.

 

[Talkin' Goat]

Maybe, and this is a big maybe, Pollard shouldn't have saddled ISU with massive development costs for his little boondoggle at the same time NIL became a thing.

And I think their AD already gets money from the general fund to operate stuff like C. Y. Stephens, which if memory serves has eight figures of deferred maintenance costs pending.

They might be painting themselves into a corner with a notoriously cheap fanbase looking at less disposable income from tariffs, a state legislature that is hostile to increased educational spending and scrambling to plug holes from their own boondoggle, and a university administration which is probably hostile to subsidizing athletics.

One also observes that Wendy Wintersteen will retire in January. Curious timing.

IIRC the ISU AD isn’t fronting any of the money for the strip mall. Seems like the developer is taking on the initial risk and then getting paid back first, but I don’t recall the specifics. My hope for them to fail miserably and ultimately needing to give up all sports and shut down the AD is still unwavering, though.

 

[newsbreaker]

Maybe, and this is a big maybe, Pollard shouldn't have saddled ISU with massive development costs for his little boondoggle at the same time NIL became a thing.

And I think their AD already gets money from the general fund to operate stuff like C. Y. Stephens, which if memory serves has eight figures of deferred maintenance costs pending.

They might be painting themselves into a corner with a notoriously cheap fanbase looking at less disposable income from tariffs, a state legislature that is hostile to increased educational spending and scrambling to plug holes from their own boondoggle, and a university administration which is probably hostile to subsidizing athletics.

One also observes that Wendy Wintersteen will retire in January. Curious timing.

They're planning on using the profits (LOL) from their strip mall to pay for the 100M in deferred maintenance to the "Iowa State Center."

 

[TH1974]

They're planning on using the profits (LOL) from their strip mall to pay for the 100M in deferred maintenance to the "Iowa State Center."

They should have that payed off in 200 million years.

 

[KitKatApples]

They're planning on using the profits (LOL) from their strip mall to pay for the 100M in deferred maintenance to the "Iowa State Center."

What happens if it never profits then?

 

[newsbreaker]

What happens if it never profits then?

It's a terrific question, and one they should be focused on.

This was all before the House settlement, and I wonder if they'll change their plan now that they're facing some big bills.

 

[Talkin' Goat]

What happens if it never profits then?

 

[Talkin' Goat]

It's a terrific question, and one they should be focused on.

This was all before the House settlement, and I wonder if they'll change their plan now that they're facing some big bills.

Their plan now is to get money directly from the State. Idea being that there will be a decrease in State revenue if ISU athletics are shit and fewer fans are traveling, staying in hotels, spending money, etc. as a result. Not a bad plan honestly as it’s pretty much all Pollard can do, but it’s still fun to watch them squirm. If he somehow does get money out of the state, then even more will need to come to Iowa City based on the same argument. Which is nice.

 

[newsbreaker]

He said they burn through their reserves in two years. I wonder how far off they think they are on an annual basis, but it has to be a lot.

 

[Brad Wesley]

Their plan now is to get money directly from the State. Idea being that there will be a decrease in State revenue if ISU athletics are shit and fewer fans are traveling, staying in hotels, spending money, etc. as a result. Not a bad plan honestly

I think it’s the best argument Pollard can make. If they have the money, but just prefer to use it for NIL instead, fuck that. Taxpayer money going to NIL is insane.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Jensen will step in and take it over

 

[KitKatApples]

Not following

 

[The Dad]

Jensen will step in and take it over

The one with a fat wife and ugly kids?

 

[L. Wade Childress]

You’re gonna get a lecture. Gonna get a lecture.

 

[KitKatApples]

He said they burn through their reserves in two years. I wonder how far off they think they are on an annual basis, but it has to be a lot.

They always report that they break even at the end of every fiscal year, so where did this reserve come from?

 

[newsbreaker]

It’s a fair question. Maybe he’s been running a secret strip mall.

 

[KitKatApples]

I feel like somewhere in all of this that Jamie Pollard could be mildly full of shit