**Official 2020 Iowa Hawkeye Football Offseason Thread**

HerkyHopeful

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He's going to flame out there as well. Just as several in his high school predicted he would at Iowa
 

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This kid is a real dumbfuck. Could have had a free education at Iowa had he shut up. Now he is going to transfer to Nebrantska to pay to go to school??
 

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I’m still confused why he couldn’t stay at Iowa? Because he initially retired and said it was a back injury when it was really mental health and was removed from his athletic scholarship?

Lance Tillison transferred away then decided to come back as a walk on. They must not have wanted him back.
 
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I’m still confused why he couldn’t stay at Iowa? Because he initially retired and said it was a back injury when it was really mental health and was removed from his athletic scholarship?

Lance Tillison transferred away then decided to come back as a walk on. They must not have wanted him back.
If you take a medical retirement, you can never play again at that school.
 

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If you transfer as a walk on, does that mean you can play right away?
 

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Three P5 transfers out in one year. That’s unusual.
 

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unless they changed the rule, no. Baker Mayfield had to sit.

but then again they give waivers a bunch now
That wide receiver from Buffalo that walked on at Iowa had to redshirt last year.
 
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I think you get a waiver if you were a walk-on at the school you are leaving. I don't think they care whether you have a scholarship at the new school.

I think Mayfield eventually won his appeal, that was over a B12 rule.
 

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I think you get a waiver if you were a walk-on at the school you are leaving. I don't think they care whether you have a scholarship at the new school.

I think Mayfield eventually won his appeal, that was over a B12 rule.
he got a year of eligibility back from the big 12
 

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Texas Tech turned Baker Mayfield and Patrick Mahomes into a 24-26 record. That coach was then hired to lead an NFL team.
In 2016, they scored 35+ points in five different losses (out of seven). Best defensive effort in a loss was 44.

it’s like Kingsbury was trying to suck on defense.
 

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In 2016, they scored 35+ points in five different losses (out of seven). Best defensive effort in a loss was 44.

it’s like Kingsbury was trying to suck on defense.
The random 27-24 2OT win at TCU that year looks really odd lined up with all of their other games.
 

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Texas Tech turned Baker Mayfield and Patrick Mahomes into a 24-26 record. That coach was then hired to lead an NFL team.
If there is a season, he’ll have no excuse not to deliver with this team he has. They should be significantly improved and if they have a 2019 Browns-esque season, I don’t know how he hangs on.

Either way, he’ll still have that incredible house.
 

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In 2016, they scored 35+ points in five different losses (out of seven). Best defensive effort in a loss was 44.

it’s like Kingsbury was trying to suck on defense.
its almost like tempo affects your ability to sustain effort in defense.
 

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In 2016, they scored 35+ points in five different losses (out of seven). Best defensive effort in a loss was 44.

it’s like Kingsbury was trying to suck on defense.
Watching some of those games was hilarious, embarrassing and sad at the same time. Texas Tech would score and then kick off.

It would be like a 20 yard pass gain, 9 yard run, 11 yard run, 40 yard post for a touchdown. 4-6 plays, 75 yards and 1:34 time of possession.

Over and over.
 
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Oklahoma scored 66 points.

Scoring drives of 9, 8, 7, 6, 6, 5, 3, 2, and 1 plays. Not a single drive in double digits.

LOLZ
 

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Drives of 65, 72, 41, 69, 75, 68, 75, 76, 75 and 75 yards.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
 

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Average scoring drive time of 1:57

Fuck you, Big XII
 
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I just don’t think Iowa was a good environment for him
Maybe not the guy to handle profanity laced, screaming criticism. Ironically, he committed as a junior and was kind of the ambassador of the 2019 recruiting class. Didn't he make 20+ trips to Iowa City? And enrolled early to boot. Rarely has a recruit been so visibly all in.
 

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Watching some of those games was hilarious, embarrassing and sad at the same time. Texas Tech would score and then kick off.

It would be like a 20 yard pass gain, 9 yard run, 11 yard run, 40 yard post for a touchdown. 4-6 plays, 75 yards and 1:34 time of possession.

Over and over.
It’s arena league football. Has been for a while. That’s why they don’t produce NFL talent like other P5 conferences
 

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It’s arena league football. Has been for a while. That’s why they don’t produce NFL talent like other P5 conferences
Well, to be fair, their skill position players are pretty good. I think you meant the defensive guys, or at least assume you did as the QB's in those games are the MVP / Super Bowl Champ and the Heisman winner and #1 overall NFL Draft pick.
 

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Well, to be fair, their skill position players are pretty good. I think you meant the defensive guys, or at least assume you did as the QB's in those games are the MVP / Super Bowl Champ and the Heisman winner and #1 overall NFL Draft pick.
I didn’t infer that produce NO talent. Simply that they produce fewer NFL prospects per school than any other P5 conference by a pretty decent margin
 

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NFL Draft picks per capita since…

Since 2018
1. SEC – 4.17
2. Pac-12 – 2.63
3(t). ACC – 2.61
3(t). Big Ten – 2.61
5. Big 12 – 2.30

Since 2017
1. SEC – 4.05
2. ACC – 2.76
3. Pac-12 – 2.75
4. Big Ten – 2.57
5. Big 12 – 2.00

Since 2016
1. SEC – 3.95
2. Pac-12 – 2.73
3. Big Ten – 2.67
4. ACC – 2.54
5. Big 12 – 2.15
 

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Washed Up Walkons had Lomax and James Daniels on this week.

Lomax explained the issues pretty well. Basically said when you’re being recruited you have your recruiting coach, the your position coach and finally Kirk. You’re never really introduced to anyone else. Once you get to campus NCAA rules don’t allow you to interact with them and you’re just thrown to Doyle and the strength coaches without knowing them and from day 1 they just ride your ass. He had heard a story where a guy thought Doyle was being racist so once Doyle starts saying things to you you remember that story and start to feel the same way. It just snowballs through all the black players.

Daniels said he was on a zoom call before the tweet storm and players all the way back into the early 90s apparently said they felt some of the same things while at Iowa.

Ward kinda started calling them out a little bit and they couldn’t really explain what ‘be yourself’ means other than they hated the 80s and 90s rock music that they played during lifts.
 

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Washed Up Walkons had Lomax and James Daniels on this week.

Lomax explained the issues pretty well. Basically said when you’re being recruited you have your recruiting coach, the your position coach and finally Kirk. You’re never really introduced to anyone else. Once you get to campus NCAA rules don’t allow you to interact with them and you’re just thrown to Doyle and the strength coaches without knowing them and from day 1 they just ride your ass. He had heard a story where a guy thought Doyle was being racist so once Doyle starts saying things to you you remember that story and start to feel the same way. It just snowballs through all the black players.

Daniels said he was on a zoom call before the tweet storm and players all the way back into the early 90s apparently said they felt some of the same things while at Iowa.

Ward kinda started calling them out a little bit and they couldn’t really explain what ‘be yourself’ means other than they hated the 80s and 90s rock music that they played during lifts.
Listened to the whole thing. It was great. Lomax has been involved with the culture change since it started in 2017. Sounds like they were all too scared to talk to Ferentz because Doyle was clearly #2 and had so much power. He would grade each player in the gym and send them to their position coach. Too much power.

Daniels actually got started on a Bears OTA Zoom meeting where all the black players shared similar experiences.
 

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Not playing a rotation of music types suited to team taste in the weight room is just stupid and not conducive to optimal effort or team camaraderie, imo.

Go coach at BYU if rap triggers you to the point of not tolerating it.
 
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